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Teenager in the 1990s = Jonathan Taylor Thomas. That's the only reason I watch it.
And I agree, Arrested Development is a good show...and not on a Viacom station.
I was watching my normal Home Improvement and saw a horrible scroll come across... (no more Home Improvement!!!)
UPDATE (keep refreshing for breaking news): What an awful way to ring in 2009. It turns out that Viacom claims it has been trying to negotiate a "fair" renewal of its prized cable channels for months and months, but reputedly Time Warner Cable has been unresponsive and "unreasonable" so talks have stalled. The nation's 2nd largest cable system operator, in turn, claims Viacom is asking for "exorbitant" increases in carriage fees which would have to be passed along to the customer. So now this fight between the two Big Media giants will hurt cable viewers. At 12:01 AM on January 1st, just after the ball drops in Time Square, Time Warner Cable's 13.3 million subscribers will lose 19 Viacom channels -- Comedy Central; CMT: Pure Country; Logo; Palladia; MTV; MTV 2; MTV Hits; MTV Jams; MTV Tr3s; Nickelodeon; Noggin; Nick 2; Nicktoons; e; The N; TV Land; Vh1; Vh1 Classic; Vh1 Soul. The howling starts here, especially by parents home for the holidays with children who won't have access to their favorite shows like SpongeBob Squarepants and Dora The Explorer, and tweens/teens wanting to see new episodes of those new unreality Reality TV series The City and Bromance, and twentysomethings and older who get their news from The Daily Show With Jon Stewart or The Colbert Report.
This affects all U.S. Time Warner cable subscribers including those in New York and Los Angeles. Alex Dudley, a vice president at Time Warner Cable, the nation's second-largest cable operator, is telling reporters that the dispute with Viacom "is that they have asked for an exorbitant increase in their carriage fees and their network ratings are sagging." However, Nickelodeon is 2008’s No. 1 basic cable network, drawing the largest audience in its history. MTV, on the other hand, has seen ratings slide. Time Warner Cable claims it's "trying to hold the line on fees for our customer" -- but it's really worried that if Viacom gets its raises, then every cable programmer will want them. TWC claims Viacom has asked for fee increases of between 22% and 36% per channel, but Sumner Redstone's company maintains the increases would cost less than $.25 a month for the package of channels per subscriber who spend a fifth of total TV time watching Viacom shows but its fees make up less than 2.5% of the Time Warner cable bill. (Sports channels are paid the biggest cable premium). But Time Warner Cable also is complaining that Viacom's popular shows are rerun on Web sites where Viacom collects advertising revenue that it does not share with Time Warner. On the other hand, Viacom has staked much of its revenue-growth prospects on squeezing higher carriage rates out of its cable and satellite affiliates despite an ad slowdown and weaker ratings.
Such negotiation battles between cable networks and cable system operators have happened before and lasted merely hours. In 2004, for example, Viacom's cable channels disappeared from EchoStar's Dish Network for two days while both sides fought over the terms of a new contract. And Time Warner blocked ABC from its cable systems in New York during a breakdown in contract negotiations with parent company Disney. So this one will either end fast or go on forever. It probably will depend on how many subscribers start flooding Time Warner Cable with obscene calls. Viacom has already started a hardball campaign to "Call Time Warner Cable and say 'NO' " starring The Hills and South Park.
This is Viacom's just issued statement:
This move by Time Warner Cable to force such channels as Nickelodeon, Comedy Central and MTV off the air is another example of a cable company overreaching for profit at the expense of its viewers.
The renewal we are seeking is reasonable and modest relative to the profits TWC enjoys from our networks. We have asked for an increase of less than 25 cents per month, per subscriber, which adds up to less than a penny per day for all 19 of MTV Networks’ channels. We make this request because TWC has so greatly undervalued our channels for so long. Americans spend more than 20% of their TV viewing time watching our networks, yet our fees amount to less than 2.5% of what Time Warner generates from their average customer.
Throughout the country, we have negotiated equitable license agreement renewals, or are in the final stages of renewals, with virtually every cable and satellite carrier. Nevertheless, Time Warner Cable has dismissed our efforts at a fair compromise and has effectively chosen to deny its customers some of the most popular TV shows on the air.
As a result, we are sorry to say that for Time Warner Cable customers our networks will go dark as of 12:01 on January 1st, denying Time Warner customers shows like Dora the Explorer, SpongeBob SquarePants, The Daily Show with Jon Stewart, The Colbert Report, and The Hills.
Ultimately, however, if Nickelodeon, Comedy Central, MTV and the rest of our programming is discontinued – over less than a penny per day - we believe viewers will see this behavior by their cable company as outrageous.
Time Warner Cable subscribers who are being handed a January 1st $3 monthly increase in Raleigh, Orange County, Los Angeles, and New York City are simultaneously facing the removal of beloved shows across 19 channels.
We find it a shame that Time Warner Cable remains unreasonable at this time. We hope its leadership will have a change of heart and will seek to negotiate a fair renewal agreement.
http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.co...l-off-the-air/
Teenager in the 1990s = Jonathan Taylor Thomas. That's the only reason I watch it.
And I agree, Arrested Development is a good show...and not on a Viacom station.
I'm just about done with TWC. "Protecting the customer" is all fine and dandy, but the fact that TWC simply cannot find compromise with those who provide its programming is disenchanting.
I wonder if the day will come when my already-exorbitent TWC bill will cover my opportunity to choose between one local station and QVC.
This is the exact same reason why the NFL Network isn't on Time Warner. TW takes a VERY hard stance if any rate increases leads to us paying more. Viacom should have known that months ago and negotiated then.
Yea I just saw it while I was watching "3rd Rock from the Sun." On TVLand.... but I dont want to have to pay more for these channels either...
double dammit.
DirecTV....
those little pre teen s will be without their precious MTV
ers are ruining my viewing of Weekend at Bernie's II with this garbage message at the bottom of the screen! Figure it out yourself, Viacom ers... I'm not doing your goddamn work for you.
Good thing they started showing fresh prince on bet.
I can still get Daily Show and Colbert Report online so really no loss for me here. It's absolutely glorious that MTV and its infinite knockoff stations are going off the air, though. MTV is a ing joke now, and they're ing about the ratings taking a hit when all they program is trash now.
LOL... yeah MTV. Fab 5 Freddy's rolling around in his grave with what MTV have devolved into.
I lost G4TV
First NFL Network, then ABC, now VIACOM??? it is TWC that is being greedy. They already charge more for less than all the other cable providers however they keep ing about protecting the consumer.
TWC is soooo full of . The only reason people have them is because they are too lazy to switch or they are forced to because of where they live.
My granddaughter just called and told me she was angry
I said why? she said, because they are going to take NOGGIN off the air.
http://www.noggin.com/index.php
poor Baby
lol my daughter watches that also...
Eff you TW... I'm willing to pay the $3 througout the year increase. You just caused baby WW3 , thank you!
Last edited by TwAnKiEs; 12-31-2008 at 09:42 AM.
yeah my daughter will be disappointed, she loves Max and Ruby. Guess she'll be watching Disney Channel instead.My granddaughter just called and told me she was angry
I said why? she said, because they are going to take NOGGIN off the air.
http://www.noggin.com/index.php
poor Baby
TW refuses to pay more for what they air but they still pass on the rate increases to the customer... As soon as I possibly could, I got rid of TW and refuse to ever go back. After having TW both in SA and Austin and dealing with their absolute horrendous customer service, I'll gladly pay a little more to have a better service. Even helping my parents set up their new tv and TW boxes this last week pained me to see the stuck-in-the-90's menus that TW has. Even the tiniest things like that are so far behind.
Well this sucks. My daughter watches Nick and I like to watch e for the UFC events and my wife watches some shows on VH1. Im sick of TW but I cant do anything with their price lock guarantee. Its not a price lock its a customer lock. you very much TW.
i feel for you TW customers...i'd go nuts without noggin...guilt free babysitting...
hopefully the greedy bas s on both sides come to some sort of understanding...
eh, if i can't get Uverse, which i can't, there really isn't a better alternative at all. i have issues with digital cable sometimes, but haven't had a problem with roadrunner in years.
IMHO people have become too attached to TV. Get out and enjoy life and stop wasting so much of it in front of a screen. Baby sitting TV?
Uverse rules!
I had DirecTV for over six years and really never had any problems. I recently switched over to U-Verse. I like it a lot so far. We'll see.
Time Warner always treats me pretty good because of who I am....
1st you've heard of people letting their kids watch cartoons?
Noggin is like pre-school. Teaches them about shapes, numbers, colors, and also life's hard lessons...the dangers of alcohol abuse, drug use, and pros ution...it's great!
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