Duncan a serious....

[21+20+9=50]

With Manu being out for the most part of this year, Its only going to be Duncan and Parker running the show till the end of 2008, with Parker playing for france( thats going to take a great toll on him being fresh, but he will be ready) and Duncan being fresh sitting at home and working out, could have a MVP season, i still think he has one MVP season left in him, and he would have to play more minutes this season if the spurs want to be a contender or even make the playoffs in this tough Westren Confrence.. What do you Guys think, does THE BIGFUNDAMENTAL STILL HAVE IT IN HIM????

[stretch]

um how serious is manu's injury? is he really going to be out for an extended period of time?

[21+20+9=50]

um how serious is manu's injury? is he really going to be out for an extended period of time?

i am pretty sure the way pop is, he is not going to play Manu right away, he is not going to take that chance, on espn they said that he would probably be back at the end of Novemeber...

[spursfan09]

Pop will monitor Tim's minutes like always I think.

[21+20+9=50]

Pop will monitor Tim's minutes like always I think.

No but when Tony was out he played more minutes and was averging 24-25 points pers game last year, if you remember wat i am talking about...

[21+20+9=50]

Pop will monitor Tim's minutes like always I think.

what will be the point of monitoring minutes if the spurs dont make the playoffs, without Manu, i dont know....

[urunobili]

Tim has one more MVP left on him.. if he has us right up there with big numbers after the All star break he may make it!

TP will be bad ass as well!!

and i hope Roger Mason will be in the conversation for MIP

[21+20+9=50]

We do all agree that the west is going to be tougher next year????

[duncan228]

Duncan's minutes will be managed, it's the best way to keep him fresh for April. I'd like to think he's got another MVP season in him, but I don't see it. We need him to be able to rise for the playoffs. If they can get through the West I think Duncan's more likely to have another Final's MVP in him than a regular season one. Of course, I'd be thrilled if he could do both again.

I'll never under-estimate a healthy Duncan. Even at 32, and even with managed minutes. He's a monster, and his window is closing. He knows that better than anyone. And I know he's got more Championships in him.

[Manufan909]

He might not be MVP level, but I know he'll get alot more touches, since it's only the big 2 now, therefore he'll be more of a force with the same minutes imo.

[spursfan09]

what will be the point of monitoring minutes if the spurs dont make the playoffs, without Manu, i dont know....

They will not miss the playoffs. Tim will just have to do more in the same amout of time, which will be possible since Manu won't be playin, he will have more possessions of his own. So will Parker.

[duncan228]

Oh, we got to the WCF with a hobbled Manu. We get nowhere if Duncan gets injured. Keeping tabs on his minutes hopefully keeps risks to a minimum.

[Brutalis]

I am only 23 and was totally set back and in awe of where the time went when D-Rob got up there in his years. When he had retired in 2003 I was finishing high school.

Five years pass and now the beginning of Duncan's end has arrived. And now I am wondering where all the time went again as I still see him in my head as in his mid-late twenties. He can still have it, but his days are numbered. The way TD is, I don't see him playing at all if he can't produce like he has his whole career. Last season for me was the first time I've seen him become clearly slower with his footwork and overall speed. Over the last 2 years I've seen him defended better than he ever has been, and I'm not sure if the league is used to his stuff by now or it's just Tim being predictable. One thing is clear to me, he is losing it. Slowwwwwly but surely. His minutes being managed and the load being partially off of him over these last few years have done nothing but add more time on his career that I am thankful for.

Sorry I hijacked the thread but yeah. This is the first season in a long while I can remember being not only anxious for, but with an eyebrow raised. I don't know if the Spurs are going to be so dominant. I highly doubt they are a 40 win team however.

My friend Will in San Antonio told me there's a rumor Tim is working on new moves. Not really new as in brand new, but new as in pump dribble fake jumpshots, and back to the basket moves made shorter to accommodate his lack of speed and quickness. Just what he said as a rumor, not sure how true it is.

[Brutalis]

I would like to add however, when it comes to the playoffs, it's like he's young Timmy all over again. (cause of managed minutes and scoring loads being taken off) It's just regular season play I speak of.

[Galileo]

With Manu being out for the most part of this year, Its only going to be Duncan and Parker running the show till the end of 2008, with Parker playing for france( thats going to take a great toll on him being fresh, but he will be ready) and Duncan being fresh sitting at home and working out, could have a MVP season, i still think he has one MVP season left in him, and he would have to play more minutes this season if the spurs want to be a contender or even make the playoffs in this tough Westren Confrence.. What do you Guys think, does THE BIGFUNDAMENTAL STILL HAVE IT IN HIM????

Tim has another MVP in him. He finished strong last year in the playoffs with a triple double, 10 straight games w/ 13+ rebounds, and 9 straight games with 14+ rebounds. Those are monster numbers.

btw

I found this:

NBA all-time triple-double leaders
Playoffs
Rank Name TD
1. Magic Johnson 30
2. Jason Kidd 11
3. Larry Bird 10
4. Wilt Chamberlain 9
5. Oscar Robertson 8
6. John Havlicek 5
7. Charles Barkley 4
8. Elgin Baylor 4
9. Walt Frazier 4
10.Scottie Pippen 4
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple-double

As you can see, triple-doubles in the playoffs by big men are VERY RARE.

[pad300]

I am only 23 and was totally set back and in awe of where the time went when D-Rob got up there in his years. When he had retired in 2003 I was finishing high school.

Five years pass and now the beginning of Duncan's end has arrived. And now I am wondering where all the time went again as I still see him in my head as in his mid-late twenties. He can still have it, but his days are numbered. The way TD is, I don't see him playing at all if he can't produce like he has his whole career. Last season for me was the first time I've seen him become clearly slower with his footwork and overall speed. Over the last 2 years I've seen him defended better than he ever has been, and I'm not sure if the league is used to his stuff by now or it's just Tim being predictable. One thing is clear to me, he is losing it. Slowwwwwly but surely. His minutes being managed and the load being partially off of him over these last few years have done nothing but add more time on his career that I am thankful for.

Sorry I hijacked the thread but yeah. This is the first season in a long while I can remember being not only anxious for, but with an eyebrow raised. I don't know if the Spurs are going to be so dominant. I highly doubt they are a 40 win team however.

My friend Will in San Antonio told me there's a rumor Tim is working on new moves. Not really new as in brand new, but new as in pump dribble fake jumpshots, and back to the basket moves made shorter to accommodate his lack of speed and quickness. Just what he said as a rumor, not sure how true it is.

I'd LOVE to see him bring out a skyhook... It was basically invincible for Kareem, and I'm dead sure that Duncan has the hands and footwork to pull it off.

[Galileo]

I am only 23 and was totally set back and in awe of where the time went when D-Rob got up there in his years. When he had retired in 2003 I was finishing high school.

Five years pass and now the beginning of Duncan's end has arrived. And now I am wondering where all the time went again as I still see him in my head as in his mid-late twenties. He can still have it, but his days are numbered. The way TD is, I don't see him playing at all if he can't produce like he has his whole career. Last season for me was the first time I've seen him become clearly slower with his footwork and overall speed. Over the last 2 years I've seen him defended better than he ever has been, and I'm not sure if the league is used to his stuff by now or it's just Tim being predictable. One thing is clear to me, he is losing it. Slowwwwwly but surely. His minutes being managed and the load being partially off of him over these last few years have done nothing but add more time on his career that I am thankful for.

Sorry I hijacked the thread but yeah. This is the first season in a long while I can remember being not only anxious for, but with an eyebrow raised. I don't know if the Spurs are going to be so dominant. I highly doubt they are a 40 win team however.

My friend Will in San Antonio told me there's a rumor Tim is working on new moves. Not really new as in brand new, but new as in pump dribble fake jumpshots, and back to the basket moves made shorter to accommodate his lack of speed and quickness. Just what he said as a rumor, not sure how true it is.

Duncan has not slowed down yet:

Per 36 minutes regular season stats:

2008

Points 20.5
Rebounds 12.0
Assists 3.0
Blocks 2.1
Steals 0.8

Career

Points 20.9
Rebounds 11.5
Assists 3.0
Blocks 2.3
Steals 0.8

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...duncati01.html

[Brutalis]

Duncan has not slowed down yet:

Per 36 minutes regular season stats:

2008

Points 20.5
Rebounds 12.0
Assists 3.0
Blocks 2.1
Steals 0.8

Career

Points 20.9
Rebounds 11.5
Assists 3.0
Blocks 2.3
Steals 0.8

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...duncati01.html

You missed my point about Duncan.

[Galileo]

You missed my point about Duncan.

Duncan finished the playoffs last year with a triple-double, 10 straight 13+ rebound games, and 9 straight 14+ rebound games (all the games after he recovered from the flu).

Go try to find me the last time someone had 10 straight 13+ rebound games in the playoffs. Not even the young jumpers can do that.

[Allanon]

Of all seasons, this is the one season where I think Duncan's numbers will drop. It was mentioned in another post but the fact is the West has gotten significantly stronger particularly in the Center/Forward position. Because Fabricio isn't much of a scorer, Duncan is 1 man going against two:

1) Yao/Scola
2) Shaq/Amare
3) Bynum/Pau
4) Chandler/West
5) Dirk/Diop/Bass/Dampier
6) Kaman/Camby
7) Oden/Aldridge
8) Okur/Boozer
9) Love/Al Jefferson
10) Gasol/Darko/Haddadi

[Galileo]

Of all seasons, this is the one season where I think Duncan's numbers will drop. It was mentioned in another post but the fact is the West has gotten significantly stronger particularly in the Center/Forward position. Because Fabricio isn't much of a scorer, Duncan is 1 man going against two:

1) Yao/Scola
2) Shaq/Amare
3) Bynum/Pau
4) Chandler/West
5) Kaman/Camby
6) Oden/Aldridge
7) Love/Al Jefferson
8) Gasol/Darko/Haddadi

Duncan's numbers will improve this season.

[romain.star]

You missed my point about Duncan.

i get your point and i agree

[Galileo]

i get your point and i agree

That's good.

And lest we all forget, Stern rigged the playoffs last year so the Lakers could make the Finals.

Remember the no-call on Barry/Fisher?

Remember the rigged scheduling, where they extended game 7 of the Hornets series to a Monday while the Lakers sat around and rested?

Then they made the Spurs play on the road WED, then FRI, then SUN, then TUE, then THUR, with no time to rest?

And remember the Spurs plane getting stuck all night in NO?

There's NO WAY the Spurs blow a 20 point lead in game one without the rigged scheduling!

Ans there's no way they blow a 17 point lead in another game (can't remember exactly which one) without the rigged scheduling.

Heck, if Duncan hadn't been sick in game one vs NO (remember his 5 point, 3 rebound, 1-9 shooting game?), the Spurs would have dispatched of NO in 5 or 6 games, and they would have beat the Lakers anyway.

The Spurs are better than the Lakers and the Spurs always win in odd numbered years.

And I bet Kobe slows down before TD.

[Allanon]

That's good.

And lest we all forget, Stern rigged the playoffs last year so the Lakers could make the Finals.

Remember the no-call on Barry/Fisher?

There was an "airball" call that wasn't and Barry travelled on that play.
If the refs hadn't blown that "airball" call, the Spurs never would have gotten the ball back unless they fouled Kobe for Free Throws.
If the refs had called travelling on Barry then he never would have gotten a chance to get fouled Fisher.

Remember the rigged scheduling, where they extended game 7 of the Hornets series to a Monday while the Lakers sat around and rested?

Then they made the Spurs play on the road WED, then FRI, then SUN, then TUE, then THUR, with no time to rest?

And remember the Spurs plane getting stuck all night in NO?

There's NO WAY the Spurs blow a 20 point lead in game one without the rigged scheduling!

Ans there's no way they blow a 17 point lead in another game (can't remember exactly which one) without the rigged scheduling.

The playoff schedule was released 1 month in advance, it could have been ANY team, it just happened to be the Spurs. The Playoffs have to be scheduled with the TV stations far in advance so it has nothing to do with the actual team playing. It could have been Rockets/Spurs for all they knew at the time of scheduling.

Heck, if Duncan hadn't been sick in game one vs NO (remember his 5 point, 3 rebound, 1-9 shooting game?), the Spurs would have dispatched of NO in 5 or 6 games, and they would have beat the Lakers anyway.

If Bynum hadn't been injured, the Lakers would have also had a better advantage. Shoulda, Coulda, Woulda's in sports are always a moot topic.

The Spurs are better than the Lakers and the Spurs always win in odd numbered years.

And I bet Kobe slows down before TD.

I disagree.

[The Reckoning]

Tim has 10 MVP seasons left. I mean, come on, he's Tim Duncan