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    Military donations favor Obama over McCain
    Thursday August 14, 6:31 pm ET
    Troops donate more campaign money to Obama than McCain, despite McCain's military record

    WASHINGTON (AP) -- U.S. soldiers have donated more presidential campaign money to Democrat Barack Obama than to Republican John McCain, a reversal of previous campaigns in which military donations tended to favor GOP White House hopefuls, a nonpartisan group reported Thursday.

    Troops serving abroad have given nearly six times as much money to Obama's presidential campaign as they have to McCain's, the Center for Responsive Politics said.

    The results also are striking because they favored Obama, who never has served in the military. McCain meanwhile, is a decorated war veteran who spent nearly five years as a prisoner of war in Vietnam. The Arizona senator graduated from the U.S. Naval Academy and had a 22-year career as a naval aviator.

    Obama has opposed the war in Iraq and says he would withdraw combat troops within 16 months. McCain has been a steadfast supporter of the war, saying he would withdraw the troops only when conditions on the ground warrant it.

    "Obama will work tirelessly to uphold this nation's sacred trust with its veterans, to ensure they are not forgotten after they return home and he will provide our troops with the leadership they deserve, as well as the support they and their families need," Obama spokesman Nick Shapiro said.

    McCain's campaign played down the significance of the donations.

    "John McCain has been endorsed by more retired admirals and generals than Barack Obama has military donors," McCain spokesman Michael Goldfarb said in a statement.

    "We feel confident that many U.S. troops stationed overseas will support John McCain in the election this fall, but we suspect most are too busy doing the important work of defending this country than to make political contributions," Goldfarb said.

    The report tracked donations of $200 or more. It found that 859 members of the military donated a total of $335,536 to Obama. McCain received $280,513 from 558 military donors.

    Among soldiers serving overseas at the time of their donations, 134 gave a total of $60,642 to Obama while 26 gave a total of $10,665 to McCain. That was less than the amount received by Republican Ron Paul, who collected $45,512 from 99 soldiers serving abroad, the report said.

    http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080814/military_donations.html

    Let's see whottt come in here and try and spin this. Maybe he'll suggest the soldiers who are giving Obama money are traitors...

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    134 vs. 26

    Seriously.

    THIS is news?

    There are many thousands serving over seas?

    I would think the fact that 160 gave TOTAL - somewhat less that .01% would make this the non-story it is. In fact, if it wasn't the "surprise" that Obama had more of the insignificant, meaningless number, is the ONLY reason it is a story at all. As in, "Oh wow, look, there are actually members of the military that like him".

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    134 vs. 26

    Seriously.

    THIS is news?

    There are many thousands serving over seas?

    I would think the fact that 160 gave TOTAL - somewhat less that .01% would make this the non-story it is. In fact, if it wasn't the "surprise" that Obama had more of the insignificant, meaningless number, is the ONLY reason it is a story at all. As in, "Oh wow, look, there are actually members of the military that like him".
    So then you agree the military generals/admirals supporting McCain is also a non-story?

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    So then you agree the military generals/admirals supporting McCain is also a non-story?

    300 out of a reasonably small number vs. 126 out of an enormous number?

    Math not your strong suit?

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    Obama should feel guilty for taking all of these peoples' money during such horrible economic times.

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    I think the reason is that most the military understand their job and are proud to serve. The few who are the big pussies and mommy's boys want the war to end so bad, they are compelled to donae to the candidayte that promises to bring the stupid children home.

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    I think the reason is that most the military understand their job and are proud to serve. The few who are the big pussies and mommy's boys want the war to end so bad, they are compelled to donae to the candidayte that promises to bring the stupid children home.
    Support the Troops! (except the ones who are ready to come home)

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    (except the ones who are ready to come home)
    or the ones I assume are ready to come home because they support a candidate other than the one I support. That's real support, not just lip service like those lib s over in D.C.

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    this is hard to believe, there is no way anyone can support Obama and the troops at the same time. McCain will be best for our military- Obama just wants to take them out of Iraq- wtf is up with that?

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    I mean.......really? wtf does Wild Cobra come up this stuff?

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    300 out of a reasonably small number vs. 126 out of an enormous number?

    Math not your strong suit?
    That would be 134 who donated WHILE ON ACTIVE DUTY. The real number was 859. 300 out of how many retired generals/admirals. I'd wager there are over 1,000. So McCain didn't pull in even 1/3. It's ridiculous to assume that the military favors one candidate over another from generals supporting McCain or soldiers supporting Obama. I was trying to make that point with this thread.

    I think the reason is that most the military understand their job and are proud to serve. The few who are the big pussies and mommy's boys want the war to end so bad, they are compelled to donae to the candidayte that promises to bring the stupid children home.
    Damn I figured it would've been whottt first.

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    I mean.......really? wtf does Wild Cobra come up this stuff?
    My 11 years and 20 days of active military service.

    That would be 134 who donated WHILE ON ACTIVE DUTY. The real number was 859. 300 out of how many retired generals/admirals. I'd wager there are over 1,000. So McCain didn't pull in even 1/3. It's ridiculous to assume that the military favors one candidate over another from generals supporting McCain or soldiers supporting Obama. I was trying to make that point with this thread.


    Damn I figured it would've been whottt first.
    Military people are briefed to leave such things personal. There are also rules of conduct related to talking bad about the commander in chief, and congress. This translates to a military person that even a donation may be misconstrued, although I don't know is that is fact not. It is a valid perception however. It is rediculous to think that more military people support Obama. All other information has a strong history of military people overhelmingly voting republican.

    You guys can think what you want. I have 11 years of credibility to cause those supporting Obama losers who are unfit to wear the uniform. I will, without any resorvations, call them pussies, cowards, etc.

    They can go themselves.

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    Military people are briefed to leave such things personal. There are also rules of conduct related to talking bad about the commander in chief, and congress. This translates to a military person that even a donation may be misconstrued, although I don't know is that is fact not. It is a valid perception however. It is rediculous to think that more military people support Obama. All other information has a strong history of military people overhelmingly voting republican.

    You guys can think what you want. I have 11 years of credibility to cause those supporting Obama losers who are unfit to wear the uniform. I will, without any resorvations, call them pussies, cowards, etc.

    They can go themselves.
    Man you're a hypocrite.

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    Most military folk wouldn't make their preferences know via donations. But LMAO at Shasta holding up an infinitesimal amount of donors, and a % of donors therein, as some sort of indication of who in the military favors who.

    But I know it won't change your opinion, you hate McCain too much.

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    Most military folk wouldn't make their preferences know via donations. But LMAO at Shasta holding up an infinitesimal amount of donors, and a % of donors therein, as some sort of indication of who in the military favors who.

    But I know it won't change your opinion, you hate McCain too much.
    This makes no impact on my opinion of either candidate. It's just like the 300 generals/admirals supporting McCain. Or Governor Richardson supporting Obama. Or the Lady Rothschild supporting McCain. It's silly to look at things like this and say, "you know what, those people are smart, they must know something." The point of my thread was to contrast all of that.

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    My 11 years and 20 days of active military service.
    guessing u never met 1 single democrat in that entire time.

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    guessing u never met 1 single democrat in that entire time.
    I meet plenty of pussies in the Army. Most of them either washed out in Basic Training, or never reinlisted. There are plenty of first termers who are liberal. Few who have reinlisted.

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    I meet plenty of pussies in the Army. Most of them either washed out in Basic Training, or never reinlisted. There are plenty of first termers who are liberal. Few who have reinlisted.
    Wow...

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    yes, it is quite amazing that he manages to store soooooo many ill-conceived arguments in there. But not as amazing as the speed at he which he pulls them out of there.

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    yes, it is quite amazing that he manages to store soooooo many ill-conceived arguments in there. But not as amazing as the speed at he which he pulls them out of there.
    If you say so.

    How many times did you re-enlist?

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    If you say so.

    How many times did you re-enlist?
    never joined. and that has exactly what to do with the fact that you're just making up idiotic arguments out of whole-cloth?

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    Wild Cobra engaged in a lot of combat while manning a communications array here in the States. Did you put your ass on line manning an antennae farm for our country?

    No, of course not...pussy!

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    never joined. and that has exactly what to do with the fact that you're just making up idiotic arguments out of whole-cloth?
    Then why am I wasting my time with you?

    What experience do you have with a broad spectrum of military personnel if you never served? How can you say my opinion is wrong without having a first-hand perspective?

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    How can you say my opinion is wrong without having a first-hand perspective?
    because it stands to reason that there are more than just a handful of democrats in the military. it also stands to reason that the reason military personnel vote for democrats is because they are democrats and not (in your words) pu$$ies looking to get out of war. you're an idiot is another huge reason I can say your opinion is wrong.

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    Why does Wild Cobra hate our troops?

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