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For those who claim tha Obama is not being truthful, what are you basing that assumption on? You must know something to claim he's not being truthful. So what is it?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/200...13oITH7hEDW7oF
John McCain said Tuesday that Barack Obama is “probably ensured” that his association with 1960s radical William Ayers will come up in Wednesday’s debate.
“I was astonished to hear him say that he was surprised that I didn’t have the guts” to bring up Ayers, McCain said on KMOX, a St. Louis radio station.
“I think he is probably ensured that it will come up this time.”
McCain was responding to Obama’s charge last week that the Arizona senator was willing to make attacks on the campaign trail that he would not say in person.
“I am surprised that, you know, we've been seeing some pretty over-the-top attacks coming out of the McCain campaign over the last several days, that he wasn't willing to say it to my face,” Obama said. “But I guess we've got one last debate. So presumably, if he ends up feeling that he needs to, he will raise it during the debate.”
Obama has also accused McCain of trying to score “cheap political points” by bringing up Ayers.
Despite challenging Obama on the association, McCain insisted that he does not care about the “old washed-up terrorist” but said that the Illinois Democrat is not “being truthful” about the relationship.
For those who claim tha Obama is not being truthful, what are you basing that assumption on? You must know something to claim he's not being truthful. So what is it?
I honestly don't think most people give a damn about this kind of stuff, but whatever...
EXTREMELY easy to crotch-kick McNasty on this one.
HUSSEIN throws back at McBottomGun his mutually adoring, friendly, CURRENT relationship with ex-con/how-to-shoot-federal-agents G. Gordon Liddy.
GAMEOVER
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Ayers and the McCain-G. Gordon Liddy Symbiosis
Does John McCain "pal around with terrorists?"
Certainly McCain's continuing "association" and relationship with the convicted Watergate burglar and domestic terrorist G. Gordon Liddy might suggest that is the case, if we are to apply the standards drawn by the McCain campaign.
In 1998, Liddy gave a fundraiser in his Scottsdale, Arizona home for McCain's senatorial re-election campaign -- the two posed for photographs together; and as recently as May, 2007, as a presidential candidate, McCain was a guest on Liddy's syndicated radio show. Inexplicably, McCain heaped praise on his host's values. During the segment, McCain said he was "proud" of Liddy, and praised Liddy's "adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great."
From the program:LIDDY: Your experience in the Hanoi Hilton is remarkable. I mean, I put in five years in a prison [for masterminding the Watergate burglary, and associated crimes], but it was here in the United States, and they didn't torture - the only torture that I had was being forced to listen to rap music from time to time.Which of Liddy's "principles and philosophies" was McCain referring to?
McCAIN: Well, you know, I'm proud of you. I'm proud of your family. I'm proud to know your son, Tom, who's a great and wonderful guy. And it's always a pleasure for me to come on your program, Gordon. And congratulations on your continued success and adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great.
Liddy's advocacy of break-ins?
Firebombings?
Assassinations?
Kidnappings?
Taking target practice with figures nicknamed Bill and Hillary?
During the same period that Bill Ayers was a member of the Weather Underground, Gordon Liddy was making plans to firebomb a Washington think tank, assassinate a prominent journalist, undertake the Watergate burglary, break into the office of Daniel Ellsberg's psychiatrist, and kidnap anti-war protesters at the 1972 Republican convention.
Re: Liddy's "continued success and adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great:"
Did McCain mean to include Liddy's instructions to listeners of his radio show in 1994 (around the time Ayres and Obama were on a board together discussing education programs and other plots) on how to shoot Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms agents (aim for the head)?
If ATF agents attempt to curtail a citizen's gun ownership, Liddy counseled, "Well, if the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms comes to disarm you and they are bearing arms, resist them with arms. Go for a head shot; they're going to be wearing bulletproof vests."
More recently, Liddy explained making the Clintons objects of shooting practice: "I did relate that on the 4th of July of last year, when I and my family and some friends were out firing away at a properly-constructed rifle range and we ran out of targets, and so we - I drew some stick figure targets and I thought we ought to give them names. So I named them Bill and Hillary, thought it might improve my aim. It didn't. My aim is good anyway. Now, having said that, I accept no responsibility for somebody shooting up the White House."
The Liddy-McCain symbiosis has been mentioned in a number of posts on the Internet - mostly by bloggers and sites identified with The Left. But the do entation of their interaction (Liddy has also contributed financially to McCain's presidential campaign) is not a matter of Left or Right: It is astonishing that, given the prominence of the Ayers matter accorded by virtually every "mainstream" news outlet in America, there has been virtually nothing on the subject in the major newspapers and broadcast networks. This is a real journalistic failure and abrogation of responsibility.
Is Liddy any less a domestic terrorist than Bill Ayers? It is a zero-sum argument, for sure. I do not believe, incidentally, that John McCain shares the most abhorrent of Liddy's values, as expressed in Liddy's actions during the same period that Ayers was a Weatherman - and which Liddy continues to express, unapologetically, to this day.
But McCain has now become so unmoored from the principles he once espoused, so shameless in his courtship not only of the Republican "base" but in his eagerness to unleash a poisonous arsenal of character assassination and guilt-by-association - and plain-and-simple incitement of people's fears and prejudices - that, now, inevitably his and Sara Palin's rallies and campaign events have taken on the aura of mobs at times.
"Kill him," a man in the crowd responded last week, when Palin declared -yet again - "He's palling around with terrorists who would target their own country." In Virginia, the State Republican chairman announced a set of talking points to campaign volunteers - stressing the incendiary connection, reported Time magazine, between Barack Obama and Osama bin Laden: "Both have friends that bombed the Pentagon. That is scary," the Republican chairman said.
The most recent McCain ad on the subject shouts, "Obama worked with terrorist William Ayers when it was convenient" - perhaps suggesting, indeed, even that the candidate was there planting bombs.
The intended message of the McCain campaign is, of course, that Obama is less than patriotic - enunciated even by the candidate's wife, Cindy: "The day that Senator Obama decided to cast a vote to not fund my son when he was serving sent a cold chill through my body," she recently told a crowd of several thousand, which also heard her husband and Palin sound similar notes. (The chairman of the Lehigh, Pa., County Republican Party, William Platt, "implored the crowd to work hard to elect McCain or wake up November 5 to see 'Barack Obama, Barack Hussein Obama,' as the president," reported The Washington Post.)
( The Ice Queen as wannbe pibull confirms her chilled body)
Like Cindy McCain, the campaign's "Ad Facts" also trumpet - misleadingly - the only troop-funding bill that Obama voted against, in 2007 - without noting that Obama first voted for the bill, in a version that included a timetable for withdrawal. Nor did Cindy McCain mention that her husband, too, voted against the troop-funding bill - in the version that contained withdrawal language.
Thus has John McCain embarked on a scorched-earth death struggle for the presidency - cultural warfare that knows no bounds, exceeding perhaps even the mendacity and ferocity of the campaign waged against him by George Bush in 2000, and of which McCain once said there was "a special place in " for the Bush operatives who smeared him. (McCain also said of the Swift-boat attacks against John Kerry by Republicans in 2004: "I deplore this kind of politics. I think the ad is dishonest and dishonorable.")
The lethal weapon of the McCain campaign's dreams is the explosive allegation that, in Palin's words - Obama "pals around with terrorists." McCain, wisely, did not raise the matter himself in the last presidential debate. Why?
At the time, much of the commentariat attributed the omission to McCain's purported concerns that Obama would respond by reciting the history of McCain's "association" with the S&L swindler Charles Keating, for which McCain was cited by the Senate Ethics Committee early in his career, for exercising "poor judgment" for intervening improperly with federal regulators on behalf of Keating, as part of the infamous Keating Five scandal.
But the more likely explanation of why McCain avoided a debate confrontation about "palling around with terrorists" is McCain's very real - and recent - symbiotic association and praise for another (not Ayers) domestic terrorist emblematic of the Vietnam era: G. Gordon Liddy.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/carl-b...tml?view=print
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Will Barack HUSSEIN Obama be ready to nut-crunch (assuming McNasty has any nuts left) McNasty with his adoring, CURRENT relationship with a terrorist?
The people who say the just want to know more aren't going to vote for him anyway so it's an effort to smear him.
Reeks of desperation at this point.
The Wotts and WIld Cobras of the world just want to smear him enough to win the election.
Here is why McCain is going nuts:
10/14: Wisconsin from Leaning Obama »»» Solid Obama
10/14 : Michigan from Leaning Obama »»» Solid Obama
10/14 : Colorado from Toss Up »»» Leaning Obama
10/13: Florida from Toss Up »»» Leaning Obama
10/13: North Dakota from Solid McCain »»» Leaning McCain
10/09 : Virginia from Toss Up »»» Leaning Obama
10/09 : Minnesota from Solid Obama »»» Leaning Obama
10/09: West Virginia from Leaning McCain »»» Toss Up
10/08 : New Jersey from Leaning Obama »»» Solid Obama
10/07: New Hampshire from Leaning Obama »»» Solid Obama
10/07 : Minnesota from Leaning Obama »»» Solid Obama
10/06 : Georgia from Solid McCain »»» Leaning McCain
10/04: Pennsylvania from Leaning Obama »»» Solid Obama
10/03: New Hampshire from Toss Up »»» Leaning Obama
10/02: Minnesota from Toss Up »»» Leaning Obama
10/02: Colorado from Leaning Obama »»» Toss Up
10/01: Wisconsin from Toss Up »»» Leaning Obama
(source: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...evious_changes)
Hey, Minnesota is going his way, at least.
HUSSEIN's dont-have-guts comment is a rope-a-McDope tactic.
I'm sure HUSSEIN will sting like a bee if McDope brings up Ayers.
I hope he does, Obama has so much dirt he's just waiting to wail on McRage. If McCain wants to do the smearing, better believe Obama is going to reply.
The most stupid thing McCain did was to announce he's gonna go there. Now Obama will be waiting... Not only that, now McCain HAS to bring it up, otherwise he'll look like a fool. Which plays great to Obama saying how McCain is only interested in attacking him instead of caring about the current economic problems...
Who is the idiot that runs the McCain campaign again?
at them running with this Ayers . By all means, bring it up
Alright! Finally an Ayers-Keating debate.
McCain still can't bring himself to look at Obama, so he can't say it to his face.
awesome, another debate that's not a debate.
Seriously, what happened to the McCain who said he wouldn't give advance warning before an attack?
It will be a very interesting moment to say the least. Obama must be ready for a good comeback and nip this in the bud.
yeah, he should have said "i'm gonna bring it up, but i'm not going to say i'm gonna bring it up".
Smart move by Obama to provoke McCain to say this in a debate. If McCain brings this up with Obama there to say it's not true, then McCain comes out looking like an ass... like he has in the last two debates.
Jesus is this guy really this easy to manipulate??
Sounds like a bluff. He'll have Obama waiting with a comeback and then not bring it up directly or not bring it up at all.
Either that or the Republican Party has given up all hope on McCain and will let him swing blindly in the wind
I think it's just McCain being a maverick...Sounds like a bluff. He'll have Obama waiting with a comeback and then not bring it up directly or not bring it up at all.
Either that or the Republican Party has given up all hope on McCain and will let him swing blindly in the wind
Oops, there's the M word again...
The latter is far more likely. McCain's temper practically assures if you call him out he'll respond. The more time he spends in the spot light the more I see how reactionary he is and how bad of a quality that would be for any president.Sounds like a bluff. He'll have Obama waiting with a comeback and then not bring it up directly or not bring it up at all.
Either that or the Republican Party has given up all hope on McCain and will let him swing blindly in the wind
A hot head with his hand on the button is something I expect to see in 24, not in reality.
I think Obama wouldn't even go to the smear... I think he would simply say it's false, and go on a tirade on how McCain only cares about attacking him instead of helping the poor guy facing foreclosure of his home, or something like that...
It makes him look like he took the high road, and also that he has been working on what people really care about...
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