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laker fan says bynum will break all of wilt's records
so im gonna go with pao
this season, who do you think would put up an overall better stats for a big man?
laker fan says bynum will break all of wilt's records
so im gonna go with pao
What Laker fan has ever said Bynum will break Wilt's records?
Are you that dense moron? There is a difference from thinking Bynum will be a good player and possibly an All-Star in this league and thinking he will be a HOF lock.
I think Bynum can legitimately put up 14 points, 10 rebounds, 2 blocks on 53% shooting. Pau will probably put up 17 points, 8 rebounds and 1 block on 50% shooting. But Bynum will play much better D. So I think Bynum will do better.
There are plenty of great power forwards but not enough good Centers so I'm guessing Bynum is going to have a better year than Gasol.
Pau's gonna have to go up against a talented Power Forward almost every night (Duncan, West, Amare, Dirk, Boozer, Bosh, KG, Brand, Sheed, Aldridge, Okafur, K-Mart, Horford, Josh Smith, etc.
Meanwhile, Bynum will have a relative size/speed and skill advantage over 25+ Centers. DHo, Yao, Oden are at the top and the rest are a definite cut below starting with Chris Kaman, Okur, Bogut, etc.
Last edited by Allanon; 10-26-2008 at 03:00 AM.
Bynum basically did that last season but on 60% shooting and 29 mintues.
If Phil gives Bynum more than 30 minutes a game he'll be grabbing around 12 board and blocking around 3 shots. Points are going to be hard to come by I would think with Kobe/Pau getting their shots and the MINUTE MEN sharing the scoring load.
im guessing 13 ppg 11 rpg 55% shooting and 1.92 bpg for bynum
Gasol
Waiting for this to turn into the Odon thread.
since when is aldridge, okafor, k-mart, josh smith in the same category as duncan, kg, dirk... ? guess against weak ass defense of Pau Gasol they are. ya do know horford is a center right.
please tell me you dont think Oden and Bynum are at the top of the centers list?
they are. i think by default though
Minus Gasol.
I said "talented", I did not say "in the same category".
Ya do know Horford plays Power Forward, is an undersized Center in the West and is listed as a C-F on the Hawks website, aight.ya do know horford is a center right.
Yao, DHo, Bynum, Oden + the rest.please tell me you dont think Oden and Bynum are at the top of the centers list?
Please tell me who is a better Center than those 4?
That depends on how you define "center". If you use the Horford argument and go by what the teams websites list, then:
Dwight Howard
Yao Ming
Amare Stoudemire
Marcus Camby
Tim Duncan
Rasheed Wallace
Chris Kaman
Tyson Chandler
just to name a few
Yao and DHo are the 2 Centers I'd put in front of Bynum.
You can't really use Horford as an argument as 7'2, 285 pound Bynum would tear 6'10, 245 pound Horford a new one if Horford tried to guard him. It's not really fair, just like Amare trying to guard Bynum. Too much lost size.
Off your list, as a starter, Bynum already put a beating on Amare and Kaman.
Coming off the bench, he played toe to toe with Camby, Sheed, Chandler. As a starter, I don't think he'll have much problems beating them.
Duncan's the only guy who'd be able to guard Bynum but I think he'll have his hands full with Pau at the Power Forward position.
depends on what stats. pau will get more points and andrew will have more boards and blocks
And? Bynum will take rebounds away from Gasol just like he did to Odom.
Gasol has been getting Bynum easy buckets all preseason so I don't see Bynum's FG% falling all that much.
as it stands i have yao, howard, bynum, chandler, kaman as my top 5 TRUE centers.
True PF's who play center from time to time
duncan, kg, amare, camby, pau
the rest of the 4's like dirk, brand, boozer, etc.....they play the 4 exclusively and isnt really considered a 4-5 so they are in a different category for me
All of the guys I listed have done much more than Bynum for years. The fact that Bynum has had a few good games means he has potential. But we are playing this year, not in the future. Every guy I listed would be taken over Bynum if a team is trying to win now.
do you guys think the lakers could win a champinship with a healthy bynum but no gasol?
He will take rebounds from Pau and Odom now? I think you will see Bynum average exactly what he did last year.
kaman and camby as your big man if u want championship?
wtf
No, I don't think so. The Lakers would have to get rid of Odom at the 4 spot. He does not have consistent power forward skills.
The odd thing about the Pau trade is I think the Lakers would be in a better position this year if they hadn't traded for Pau. With Bynum & Odom, the Lakers actually need Marc Gasol more than they need Pau. Financially, they'd be paying only $1 million compared to $15 million (something like that, I don't know the exact #'s).
Duncan I definitely agree. Yao too.
If the Lakers didn't have Pau, I'd take Amare to win today. To build a team today, I'd take Bynum.
Camby, Sheed, Kaman, at their current ages and skill level, I would not take over Bynum if I wanted to win this year. Sheed used to be bad-ass but he's alot older now. Camby, Kaman have low ceilings and I'd say Bynum is a better player today than those two.
Chandler is a great defensive player but he has no offense.
For perspective, I think I remember the Wolves were getting a trade on the table with KG for Bynum + Farmar. Or maybe it was Odom + Bynum, I'm not sure. And of course there was the Jason Kidd for Bynum deal which Kobe was a little unhappy with. The Lakers would part with one of them but wouldn't let go of Bynum so they turned it down.
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