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are you serious about that link?
Republican Abe Lincoln Used Deceit and Deception to Start the Civil War
http://books.google.com/books?id=hJG...um=3&ct=result
This is yet another historical example that proves that 9/11 is not the exception to the rule.
are you serious about that link?
Right, because if you write it down, then it has to be true.
What, you didn't sit and read through all 232 pages?
How are you supposed to make a logical argument then clambake?
Apparently the whole "Fort Sumter" and "states declaring secession" thing was fake too.
Abe Lincoln is one of the worst presidents in US history. He did more to destroy the Cons ution than any other president:
1) He illegally suspended Habeas Corpus
2) He willfully allowed his generals to commit many war crimes against innocent civilians, women, and children.
3) He allowed mass murders of the Indians.
4) He was a racist who believed that blacks were inferior to whites.
5) He orchestrated to start of the Civil War.
6) He arrested newsmen who published editorials that he did not agree with.
7) He promoted corrupting tariff laws and high taxation.
8) He ignored orders from the Supreme Court.
9) He promoted uncons utional direct taxes and income taxes.
10) He promoted the military draft.
What little I've read looks pretty dumb. The author pretends that Lincoln was bound to honor informal agreements made by Buchanan with the government of a country he didn't recognize.
If sending more troops to Sumter was such a secret, why did everyone know it was happening?
Read the article. It is a chapter from a scholarly book from the von Mises Ins ute.
secession does not equal war.
if you let logic get in the way you'll go crazy.
you didn't get far enough.
If sending more troops to Sumter was such a secret, why did everyone know it was happening?
If one believes secession to be illegal, it most certainly does.
Yeah, I did.
Oh, you're right.
Buchanan tried to reinforce Sumter first!
Thanks!
where in the Cons ution does it say secession is illegal? The Supreme Court ruled it was legal. Lincoln supported secession himself when West Virginia seceded from Virginia. Lincoln even got extra electoral votes from that in the 1864 election. Nice, isn't it?
BOOOOO!! Lincoln.....boooooo!!!!
No, they ruled it was illegal. Texas v. White 1869.It sure is, especially since the Supreme Court of the US declared the formation of West Virginia to be legal in 1871 -- Virginia v. West Virginia.Lincoln supported secession himself when West Virginia seceded from Virginia. Lincoln even got extra electoral votes from that in the 1864 election. Nice, isn't it?
Here's articles on both:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_v._White
http://www.wvhumanities.org/Statehoo...stvirginia.htm
You're welcome.
Buchanan was a doughface. You're right, he did try to reinforce Sumpter. But Buchanan was not a warmonger, nor did he start the Civil War. When shots were fired in January at federal ships enroute to Ft. Sumpter, the ships turned back to Washington.
The Lincoln deception involves much more than just reinforcing Ft. Sumpter. For one thing, he was sending conflicting orders at exactly the same time to the mayer of Charleston, some orders through official channels and others through unofficial channels.
You are just one of those people who likes to disgree with everyone.
I'm not going to get into tin foil hat conspiracies one after the other but I think its pretty obvious that throughout history there are many many examples of engineered plans put into place to spur radical interest and elite capital gains.
I'm not saying everything should be questioned and everything is a cover up for a larger plan but people who seek power and fiscal gain have manipulated as few as one or two people and as many as a few million. There are hundreds of scam pulled off each year and some right within our own government.
You don't have to dig too deep to find real world or past applicable examples.
Its hard to not lump a poster like Galileo in the conspiracy file but at some point you're going to have to come to terms with the fact that deceit and deception to further a cause for personal interest and financial gain is pretty much the backbone of how the world operates. Outlandish and crazy things do happen and have happened. Not all the claims are true or accurate but you can't simply discount all of them as crazy hoopla.
I don't agree with everything Galileo says in fact I agree with very little but that quote above is pretty spot on.
all I can say is Galileo when you finally wake up and discover your insanity, give yourself a break, laugh, and live a full life. guns and alcohol are from the devil.
That ruling came later. In 1861 it was legal. Also, the White ruling contradicts the 11th amendment.
Buchanan is universally viewed as one of the United States' worst presidents.
If that mayor is loyal to a government I consider illegal, who gives a ?The Lincoln deception involves much more than just reinforcing Ft. Sumpter. For one thing, he was sending conflicting orders at exactly the same time to the mayer of Charleston, some orders through official channels and others through unofficial channels.
I like to disagree with people who are wrong.You are just one of those people who likes to disgree with everyone.
You are wrong pretty much all the time.
According to which Supreme Court case?
So when was it overturned?Also, the White ruling contradicts the 11th amendment.
Never?
Then it's law.
dead serious. War is a serious business and people get killed.
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