So everyone over there is happy? I'm just curious as to what other countries really think and not what the media says they are thinking.
Whatever the relationship between yours and your new president's politics, his inauguration is an historic day for your country, and because of its influence, for the world. Congratulations! May it signify a step towards a better future for all.
PS No, I'm naive naive or optimistic enough to believe that anything will really change, but one must hold out hope...
PPS Please don't use this thread to get into a political slinging match - that is not the point. The point is that less than 50 years ago your country had segregated schools and open racial discrimination, and today you have an African-American president. Obama's election signifies an incredible transformation in your country that should be celebrated.
PPPS I am not -stirring, I am sincere. The world outside the US is very happy today.![]()
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So everyone over there is happy? I'm just curious as to what other countries really think and not what the media says they are thinking.
Thanks Ruffy, the sentiment of the words couldn't be more sincere if Peter Garrett himself were uttering them.
Sly....great sig!
Racism is a world issue. So the entire world is happy.
The Australian markets are more free than America's.
Well, watch Fox News for the "fair and balanced" news.
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A new president is an historic day?
Every 4 years you've got a new president
It's odd how this is celebrated so much globally when America is probably the only country where this would happen. Do you think a native aborigine (sp?) will be elected as Australia's PM anytime soon?
We could cure cancer and end world hunger and this day would still be a top-10 moment of the century.
Yeah it is a historical day, but I find it funny that he was raised by a white mother and his real father left him. Why is it so historical....because he has some black in him?
It just shows how time changes things. 200 years ago Australia was founded by hard ass convicts that got dumped on the beach and today it's populated by pussies like you.
Hey, I am happy for you...just think it's a little overboard.
Very good point. I find it quite funny that the "world" is so happy we've elected a black man when no other country in the world has the diversity and tolerance that the United States has.
Thanks. I was not even born yet but I still like seeing how things used to be.
Are "people" excited about this historic day with our first Black President or because George W. Bush is OUT??
HMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
It's not an either/or thing. Both are pretty great.
Not everyone, but the vast majority is happy, yes. I don't personally know anyone who thinks it's not a good thing.So everyone over there is happy? I'm just curious as to what other countries really think and not what the media says they are thinking.
It's a great relief to most of the world that GW is gone (he was a disaster internationally), and on top of that there is the symbolism of Obama's race and what that means for change in America, and the promise of a new direction for American domestic and foreign policy. Like it or not, America still leads the world in so many ways, and with the economic and environmental challenges of this century, the world needs America to take the lead. We're all hoping Obama may be part of that.
Cheers mate, I am sincere.
Re-read what I said - it's historic because of how far race relations have come in the US. Many African-American people never thought this day would come.
I doubt it, but mainly because Aborigines make up such a small % or the population (about 2.5%). Your analogy is a little Spurious because it suggest that Obama is a Native American, so the real question is could someone not of Caucasian origin become Oz's PM in the near future, and I say yes, absolutely. Race relations in Australia are excellent by world standards - perfect by no means, but for most young people (under 45) race isn't an issue at all. There is a lot of racial intermixing, and most people don't think twice about another person's race.
It is a milestone for the most powerful country in the world, so probably.
Because it's a symbol of the change in race relations, as I stated. Before it happened, a lot of people thought it never would.
I'm not a typical Australian, nor a typical human being, so don't make generalisations based on me!
As you well know Aussies are not pussies, and as you probably don't know, nor am I. I just have a sensitive side that I am not afraid to express, unlike most men.
Don't overstate things. There are plenty of countries with race relations as good as or better than the US, but the US has come a uva long way since Rosa Parks.
Both.
Exactly.
to all.
I full support him and want him to do well.
That being said, the campaigning and and catchy words and cool t shirts with "hope" on them won't turn the country around.
Lets see what hes got. I just think alot of these star struck people in this country are gonna be let down.
You're very welcome old foot...and remember, DL1 can be yours![]()
It's great that we have taken a step forward for those that were discriminated against, but it's sad that we have to still label someones color or race. He is just a man that is now our president. It's just too bad he will always be labeled as a black man & not just a man who did or did not do good for our country in his term(s).
Totally agree that winning this presidential election was a poisoned chalice, and that he has a MONUMENTAL task ahead of him - so many short and long-term challenges that no-one really has a coherent answer to yet, and probably never will.
Civilisation has become vast and complex, and combine that with the nature of the political system (4 year terms and such), and crisis managment seems to be about all any government can do today. Govts all over the world are having real trouble planning for future contingencies, they're just trying to keep it all going FOR NOW. Obama may turn out to be no different, maybe he's hamstrung to begin with, or maybe he'll actually be a great leader and make real change for the better. Who knows? We shall see. He can't do much worse than the last guy...![]()
Agreed.
However, the broader point is that race will sadly always exist, it is a part of the human condition, and Obama is a symbol of a move towards what you describe. Slow steps, my friend, slow steady steps in the right direction will get you where you want to go eventually.
Sounds like a bit of a cop-out to me. It certainly hasn't happened yet.
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