http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_r...orks?eref=sihp
"The Wizards are said to have an offer for Manu Ginobili on the table, but the details are not known. A deal that makes a lot of sense for both sides is a swap that consists of Mike James, Etan Thomas, the fifth pick in this year's draft, and Nick Young for Ginobili and Fabricio Oberto. Nick Young would provide the Spurs with the promising young shooting guard they tried to acquire in J.R. Smith and with the fifth pick they could go a number of different ways. Jordan Hill or DeMar DeRozan would look awfully nice in a Spurs' uniform."
Who the F is Etan Thomas??
Thomas has been around awhile. He really wouldnt be any answer for the Spurs. Probly just to make the salaries match.
I don't know. Its about team not any one love for a certain player. Some of you will eventually realize that.
I would personally make that trade and gladly pick a young talented player to build my team with at #5.
no.
How soon do you think a trade could happen? Is there a time period that they can't trade before?
Mike James sucks. There is a reason he's been passed around from team to team. He's a black hole on offense and his shooting percentage is atrocious. Etan Thomas is only good for writing prose.
Thanks.Love that avatar! HAHAHAHA!
I would say there is a better than average chance that Ginobili never reaches another all star game.
No, no and...
wait a minute...let me think about it....
NO.
This is an insult to Ginobili and the Spurs. First of all, the draft this year is not deep at all, so the fifth pick isn't really going to be as great as in the past. Second of all, who the heck is Etan Thomas?!
Terrible trade idea and I like Nick Young.
Etan Thomas showed promise when drafted by Dallas. Think of a more physical Chuck Hayes. Nothing splashy but did all the dirty work and a lot stuff that didn't always show up on the stat sheet. Injuries plagued him ever since though. No thanks.
Etan isn't a terrible bigman. He had heart surgery within the past few seasons and played for the Wizards, which is why apparently no one has heard of him.
Mike James...
The 5th pick, more than likely, will never be what Manu can still be.
Nick Young I haven't seen very much of, but the rest of the trade is pretty stupid.
I bet the Wizards would like to make that trade...
I think this is a great trade for the Spurs.
We trade Manu who hasnt done anything for us in the last 2 playoffs, because he was on the bench eating pop corn. We get Nick Young who is a young SG that can dunk and shoot, he could turn into something great. Etan Thomas is also pretty young, he can do all the dirty work for us, and I think he is young too. Mike James would just be waived. And last but not least we would get the #5 pick, it would give us a chance to get a good bigman or a small foward.
PG: Tony Parker
SG: Nick Young
SF: Draft pick/Free agent pickup
PF: Tim Duncan
C: Etan Thomas/Draft Pick
This entire trade revolves around the immediate impact the 5th pick and Young could make. I don't see it happening because this is not a deep enough draft to take a risk with Manu.
What cracks me up is that none of you who advocate the trade talk about the mental aspect of this game.
All of those guys mentioned, while collectively have a lot to offer, again collectively, they aren't MENTAL GIANTS, to put it succinctly, they are more like Mental Sequs.
And that's not a compliment in any way, shape, or form.
Should Ginobili be as healthy as him and the medical team think he will be, we'll probably see 15-5-5 and lots of game changing play.
NO to that trade. Mike James sucks, and any trade involving Manu for Etan Thomas blows also. If it were...oh I dunno...Caron Butler, Nick Young, and the #5 pick for Manu + filler then we might have to start considering it. But I dont think the Wizards are THAT stupid. That and the salries probably dont match.
Manu will not make the all star team. Too many better guards in the west.
+100
Etan thomas is barely starting to make waves...he provides no where near the amount of impact manu has, and im not ready to write off manu and so i can find out.
From your lips to God's ears.
Etan Thomas will raise the poetry IQ of the team instantly.
http://www.amazon.com/More-Than-Athl.../dp/0965830896
Poetry by Etan Thomas, this one is for BR Hornets
Somebody help me, tell me the truth
Was it all a spoof?
Crackers show me the proof.
They blame Saddam for bombs of bin Laden
when they finance war to oppress the downtrodden.
It's propaganda
Slanted for blacks
Until our
vision is slanted
distorting the facts
It's mind control, sensory overload
Burn you eyes, frying your brain
leavin' a stain.
That's why they're called programs
visual scams
Burn Hollywood Burn
(now they) concerned? I'll be damned.
but it's a challenge
You all be like cartoons
Learning from schools?
I try to keep it in balance
Genocide is the vessel
I wrestle
the thoughts of
leaving these United Snakes forever
because
this ain't America, home of the free
this ain't no democracy
it's just white supremacy
Mic Flo, "Somebody"
The spurs need an over haul of the roster especially on the frontline. A couple of scrub pickups won't be enough .
I don't see that happening if they don't want to trade anyone.
I'll try one more time with you.
Suggest a realistic trade(s) for a quality bigman that benefits both the Spurs and the trade partner. Constantly calling for an overhaul without suggesting reasonable steps to get there is just whining.
ginobili,oberto,bruce for pecherov,butler,young and the 5th pick and we draft james harden
So, wait. When Manu led the Spurs in scoring in 2008 against the Hornets, he was actually doing nothing? When he led the Spurs in scoring of Game 7 of that series, he really did nothing? When he averaged 17+ ppg over a 17 game playoff run, he did nothing? When he made a play to send Game 1 against Phoenix into a 2nd OT and then salted away the win with the final bucket of the 2nd OT, he really hadn't done anything for the Spurs?
Damn.
As for the trade, I'm sure it would help Washington, but have no idea how it would actually help the Spurs. Trading an older, accomplished mediocre center with a history of heart problems for a younger, unaccomplished mediocre center with a history of heart problems seems a push at best. Nick Young might have some promise, but at this point, he's a one-dimensional player who isn't all that great in performing that dimension. Mike James is, well, Mike James. And while there have been a few All-Stars taken at #5 in previous drafts (Devin Harris in 2004 and Dwyane Wade in 2003), pick #5 hasn't exactly been historically a productive place in anything other than really deep drafts. Generally speaking at #5, you're looking at a fairly-productive player who won't ever be an All-Star.
For a team that faces a closing window and has an All-Star caliber guard, that's not very much to get back.
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