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Cavs. Or Spurs, tough choice.
Saw this on realgm, thought it was interesting.
Cavs
PG Williams
SG Parker
SF James
PF Varejao
Cc Shaq
Celtics
PG Rondo
SG Allen
SF Pierce
PF Garnett
Cc Sheed
Spurs
PG Parker
SG Ginobili
SF Finley / Jefferson
PF Duncan
Cc McDyess
Lakers
PG Fisher
SG Bryant
SF Artest
PF Gasol
Cc Bynum
Magic
PG Nelson
SG Carter
SF Lewis
PF Bass
Cc Howard
Heat
PG Chalmers
SG Wade
SF Beasley
PF Haslem
Cc O'Neal
Suns
PG Nash
SG Richardson
SF Hill
PF Frye
Cc Amare
Mavericks
PG Kidd
SG Howard / Terry
SF Marion
PF Dirk
Cc Dampier
Portland
PG Miller
SG Roy
SF Batum
PF Aldridge
Cc Oden
Cavs. Or Spurs, tough choice.
Spurs by a landslide.
I'm gonna go with the homer pick and pick the Spurs. Offensively and defensively, the Spurs are just sick. Prime Duncan and Dice patrolling the paint? Sheeeeyit. A prime Ginobili and Parker backcourt with prime Finley and Jefferson at the SF. Pretty sick.
The Celtics are pretty sick too, but prime Dice >>>>> prime Wallace and prime TD > prime KG, prime Parker >>> prime Rondo, and prime Ginobili > prime Allen.
Cavs are also sweet, but Shaq and LeBron aren't enough because the other three players were nothing special in their primes.
My initial thought was that a prime Shaq and LeBron team is unstoppable. But then again, the rest of their team is even their prime.
Prime Duncan is the second most dominant player on that list, and with a primer Parker, Manu, Finley, and Dice? Damn. I change my pick.
That Maverick team looks pretty sick too. Prime Jason Kidd is a top 5 all-time PG. Playing with prime Nowitzki and Marion, he would have a field day.
Cavs.
Having Shaq in his prime and putting him next to LeBron in his prime pretty much seals the deal no matter who the other three players are as long as they are NBA players, even low end NBA caliber players. 2 of the most dominant, most unstoppable players in modern NBA history. All the other three guys need to do is hit open shots, make clean passes, play solid defense.
The problem with some of the younger players listed on those teams is you're trying to guess what they'll be like in their prime. There's no guarantee guys like Greg Oden or Andrew Bynum will be dominant players in their prime. One could argue it's not even likely, much less a guarantee. Or with Michael Beasley, how do we know what he'll be in his prime? He could range from Jamal Mashburn or Derrick Coleman to Rodney White or Marcus Fizer. The question asks to guess on some of these players' potential.
Also, I think you should have stopped after the first four teams anyway. Cavs, Celtics, Spurs, and Lakers. The other teams shouldn't be in the discussion.
Cavs, magic, spurs ,celtics and mavs would be the scariest teams.
Shaq and LeBron would of had a 10 peat!lol
I don't think it would be the Lakers, even though they're the best right now. Pretty much everyone on the team is in their prime right now, except for Kobe and Bynum (we haven't seen it so theres no way to judge). It might be the Cavs, with Lebron and Shaq... you'd have 2 of the top 3 or 2 best players in the league. Spurs with a prime Duncan and Ginobli and McDyess would be really good. The Celtics with a prime Ray Allen, KG, Paul Pierce, and Rasheed Wallace would be sick too.
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I would probably go Celtics. But I think the Spurs would be right there and then the Cavs.
Celtics
Celtics
Cavs easily. They would have the top 2 players in the league. If they're a 60-65 win team as currently constructed then they're a 70+ win team (in theory) with prime Shaq.
Please tell me you see the fallacy in this post. Please.
The team with 2000 Shaq.
Is prime Shaq better than prime Duncan?
Yes. Well I should say he has more of an impact on the flow of the game, but skillset wise no. I would definitely rather have prime Shaq though.
DPG, not trying to diss you but when did you become a fan? You didn't get to see Shaq in 2000?
I think prime Tim and prime RJ could at least do some damage to the Shaq/Lebron combo defensively. Not shut them down, but at least compete at a high level. They would also make it tough for Shaq & Bron to guard them.
That would leave a prime Andy to guard a prime McDyess? McDyess was a fantastic player and athlete in his prime. He would destroy Andy and on defense he could help out on Shaq because Andy is such a liability on that end. Given, McDyess was not quite the mid range shooter in his prime as he is today, but he was a pretty legit number one option in his prime.
Then you have prime Ginobili/Parker vs a prime Mo Williams/Anthony Parker? That is not close either. Both in talent and in winning.
The only thing you could argue is how much better Lebron could co exist with Shaq and how much better Shaq in his prime was better than Duncan in his prime.
Last edited by DPG21920; 08-28-2009 at 02:12 AM.
Yup, and I have watched the Lakers for just as long as the Spurs because my older brother has been a Laker fan since Magic for some reason. Given, at that point in time, there was no league pass and I did not get to see the Lakers as much as the Spurs, but I still watched.
I am a huge fan of Shaq's game, but I do not think Shaq's best is much better than Duncan's, if at all.
Better basketball player?
No.
More dominant and unguardable?
Absolutely.
Just glancing at the teams and more specifically the Spurs and Celtics, who look to be better overall teams, I can't really get over the idea of a prime Shaq and LeBron; a LeBron who'd be even more evolved than he is now if we're talking prime.
Duncan, 'Dyess, Garnett and Wallace would have a hard time staying on the court defending Shaq, and if LeBron's going to get to play against a defense that's already overloaded and on it's heels defensively? Well.. If they weren't already in foul-trouble, they'd soon be.
Shaq and LeBron are the two most physically dominant player players I've ever witnessed. And while I think the Spurs team could beat them given a fair whistle and the Celtics might as well, I figure a prime Shaq still gets away with lowering the shoulder and ever so gently using the elbows.And if the rules of today are in effect, no contact on the perimeter, you've got a Shaq-sized problem with LeBron.
I guess it'd really come down to officiating, is what I'm really trying to say.
I'm just sure as glad LeBron's not getting a prime Shaq.
A prime Shaq with a prime LeBron by a landslide. I can't believe some of you Spurs homers.
Not to mention, you have a group of guys in Duncan/McDyess/Ginobili who are almost disgustingly perfect from a chemistry standpoint for superstars. They put it out there every night and are great compe ors with almost 0 ego.
Parker/Gino/RJ/Duncan have all been to or won the finals. Only Shaq on that team has. I know it is about primes, but everyone except Lebron has already seen their primes in this scenario and none tasted the finals except for Shaq and Bron.
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