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    "You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift. You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down. You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred. You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence. You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves."
    Abraham Lincoln

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    "You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift. You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down. You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred. You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence. You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves."
    Abraham Lincoln
    If only he could see today's liberals. I wonder if he knew he was predicting the destruction of this nation?

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    ....and we must enrich the rich with new riches and tax cuts when their stealing and squandering are revealed....

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    That would have been a great post if Lincoln had actually said that.

    Attribution fail.

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    That would have been a great post if Lincoln had actually said that.

    Attribution fail.
    who said it, booth?

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    who said it, booth?

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    epic fail

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    lol

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    Damn foreigners.

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    If only he could see today's liberals. I wonder if he knew he was predicting the destruction of this nation?

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    A real quote from Lincoln:

    The legitimate object of government is to do for the people what needs to be done, but which they can not, by individual effort, do at all, or do so well, for themselves.

    Of course that's open to various interpretations from both sides of the political fence, but I guess the important lesson here is to not believe everything you read in a chain email.

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    Right propaganda would like us to believe that Lincoln said that.

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_J._H._Boetcker
    An outspoken political conservative, Rev. Boetcker is perhaps best remembered for his authorship of a pamphlet en led The Ten Cannots. Originally published in 1916, it is often misattributed to Abraham Lincoln. The error apparently stems from a leaflet printed in 1942 by a conservative political organization called the Committee for Cons utional Government. The leaflet bore the le "Lincoln on Limitations" and contained some genuine Lincoln quotations on one side and the "Ten Cannots" on the other, with the attributions switched. The mistake of crediting Lincoln for having been the source of "The Ten Cannots" has been repeated many times since, most notably by Ronald Reagan in a speech he gave at the 1992 Republican convention in Houston
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    Point is...most people are left shaking their heads in agreement that first hear this quote before even knowing who wrote it.

    I've seen this happen in person without an attributed author being mentioned. Many shaking their heads in approval being democrat voting people.

    I just thought it was amusing myself to see people who were so staunchly party affiliated to shake their head in approval of something said by somebody who held a different party belief.

    It gave me hope at that time that people just might put political differences aside.

    NAH!!!

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    A real quote from Lincoln:

    The legitimate object of government is to do for the people what needs to be done, but which they can not, by individual effort, do at all, or do so well, for themselves.

    Of course that's open to various interpretations from both sides of the political fence, but I guess the important lesson here is to not believe everything you read in a chain email.

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_J._H._Boetcker
    An outspoken political conservative, Rev. Boetcker is perhaps best remembered for his authorship of a pamphlet en led The Ten Cannots. Originally published in 1916, it is often misattributed to Abraham Lincoln. The error apparently stems from a leaflet printed in 1942 by a conservative political organization called the Committee for Cons utional Government. The leaflet bore the le "Lincoln on Limitations" and contained some genuine Lincoln quotations on one side and the "Ten Cannots" on the other, with the attributions switched. The mistake of crediting Lincoln for having been the source of "The Ten Cannots" has been repeated many times since, most notably by Ronald Reagan in a speech he gave at the 1992 Republican convention in Houston
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    Point is...most people are left shaking their heads in agreement that first hear this quote before even knowing who wrote it.

    I've seen this happen in person without an attributed author being mentioned. Many shaking their heads in approval being democrat voting people.

    I just thought it was amusing myself to see people who were so staunchly party affiliated to shake their head in approval of something said by somebody who held a different party belief.

    It gave me hope at that time that people just might put political differences aside.

    NAH!!!
    64 minute crafted response?

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    Point is...most people are left shaking their heads in agreement that first hear this quote before even knowing who wrote it.
    Point is...you attributed this quote to Lincoln and Lincoln said no such thing.

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    I think this one is apropos...

    "I believe it is an established maxim in morals that he who makes an assertion without knowing whether it is true or false, is guilty of falsehood; and the accidental truth of the assertion, does not justify or excuse him."
    -- August 11, 1846 - Letter to Allen N. Ford
    http://www.topicsites.com/abraham-lincoln/quotes.htm


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    Judgment of the utterer notwithstanding, the accidental truth is no less true.

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    What about this quote SpurNation?

    I don't believe in a law to prevent a man from getting rich; it would do more harm than good. So while we do not propose any war upon capital, we do wish to allow the humblest man an equal chance to get rich with everybody else.
    --March 6, 1860 Speech at New Haven, Connecticut
    If a politician said that today, what side of the political spectrum would you place him on?

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    Judgment of the utterer notwithstanding, the accidental truth is no less true.
    Eh, to me it's all sound and fury signifying nothing. Those words SOUND nice to conservatives, of course. But they don't really help determine policy or anything of the sort, in my mind. There's words in that paragraph that are designed to illicit a sort of " yeah!" reaction, but in reality they're strawmen. "Destroying the rich"... "weakening the strong"... "inciting class hatred", etc etc.

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    "I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal."

    I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia, the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.

    I have a dream that one day even the state of Mississippi, a state sweltering with the heat of injustice, sweltering with the heat of oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice."

    Abraham Lincoln

    so...how far we've come???

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    LOL.
    Point is...the message is powerful enough for people to recognize as truthful from inside themselves regardless of their political affiliation or knowing who the author may or may have not been.

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    Judgment of the utterer notwithstanding, the accidental truth is no less true.
    Lying about who said it is lying.

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    "I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal."

    I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia, the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.

    I have a dream that one day even the state of Mississippi, a state sweltering with the heat of injustice, sweltering with the heat of oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice."

    Abraham Lincoln

    so...how far we've come???
    We've come farther in the last fifty than we did in the 100 years preceding the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

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