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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    Should be interesting.

    Reid Will Put Public Option to Vote


    from Taegan Goddard's Political Wire



    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) "will announce this afternoon that he plans to push ahead with a public option vote -- one that includes an opt-out provision for states -- even though he's currently short several votes for passage, according to people close to the situation," Politico reports.

    Reid has 3:15 p.m. press conference to discuss details.

    "Leadership sources tell me that Reid, who spoke with virtually every member of his 60-member caucus this weekend, currently has between 56 and 57 votes for the opt-out, which is being pushed by Sen. Charles Schumer, according to Democratic aides."

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    "one that includes an opt-out provision for states"

    this is chicken .

    no states opt out
    (a state-level public option would be crushed by the much larger private insurers. same story with insurance co-ops.)

    no trigger (won't ever be pulled)

    strong public option (aka Medicare for all, setting prices for procedures is best way to cap costs).

    public option NOT operated by a private insurer/contractor, but run by expanded Medicare.

    yellow-bellied, co-opted Dems gonna screw it up. Reid, Pelosi, Blue Dogs suck.

    Magic Negro needs to step and ram through a strong public option.

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    This is as good as its going to get. Obviously the ideal scenario from the progressive standpoint is medicare for all but that is simply not in the cards. A state opt out program is better than I was expecting to see after all the talk of the trigger so if we get that then I'll be fairly happy.

    Now of course this has a long way to go but this is encouraging and would be far better than the bacus bull we hard earlier.

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    This is as good as its going to get. Obviously the ideal scenario from the progressive standpoint is medicare for all but that is simply not in the cards. A state opt out program is better than I was expecting to see after all the talk of the trigger so if we get that then I'll be fairly happy.

    Now of course this has a long way to go but this is encouraging and would be far better than the bacus bull we hard earlier.

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    I read where the public option would be contracted to a private insurer. WTF?

    that's like paying a Blackwater mercenary murderer $6K month rather than a US Marine $2K/month.

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    I read where the public option would be contracted to a private insurer. WTF?

    that's like paying a Blackwater mercenary murderer $6K month rather than a US Marine $2K/month.
    Do you honestly expect congress to do the right thing?

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    I read where the public option would be contracted to a private insurer. WTF?

    that's like paying a Blackwater mercenary murderer $6K month rather than a US Marine $2K/month.
    You got a link on that? What the is the point of a public option if they do that ?

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    bye bye harry.

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    I read where the public option would be contracted to a private insurer. WTF?

    that's like paying a Blackwater mercenary murderer $6K month rather than a US Marine $2K/month.

    That really surprises you, croutons? You have so much to learn about the real world.

    I can probably even come up with a top 5 list of insurers on this one, if you give me some time to peruse the financial disclosure statements of Reid and some of his Congressional lib buddies.

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    It's good to see that a plotician would put his career on the line for the betterment of the country. Bravo Harry Reid!

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    It's good to see that a plotician would put his career on the line for the betterment of the country. Bravo Harry Reid!
    For the betterment of the country...

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    It's good to see that a plotician would put his career on the line for the betterment of the country. Bravo Harry Reid!
    I guess that land sale was for the betterment too?

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    For the betterment of the country...
    I understand making health care more accessable pisses you off..BOO!

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    I guess that land sale was for the betterment too?
    Have you had the chance to watch your glenn beck show today?

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    Have you had the chance to watch your glenn beck show today?
    No, but just in case you don't know what I am talking about. Here you go:
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...101101640.html

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    No, but just in case you don't know what I am talking about. Here you go:
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...101101640.html
    let me guess.. a story that protrays reid in a negative light...Boo! Please keep your idiocy to yourself ..

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    I understand making health care more accessable pisses you off..BOO!


    So over the course of the past year we've gone from making health care "universal", then dropped that and went with "affordable", and now we've dropped that and are down to "accesssible".

    I laugh, even though in the end the joke is on us, the suckers who are going to have to pay for this boondoggle.

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    So over the course of the past year we've gone from making health care "universal", then dropped that and went with "affordable", and now we've dropped that and are down to "accesssible".

    I laugh, even though in the end the joke is on us, the suckers who are going to have to pay for this boondoggle.
    That's a good thing right? You dead enders complain about everything. Hey cookie, we already pay for it..

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    That's a good thing right? You dead enders complain about everything. Hey cookie, we already pay for it..
    I think Glenn Beck is on. Why don't you go find something to get outraged over. In the mean time I'll keep complaining about a plan that will only end up making our healthcare more expensive than it is already.

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    I understand making health care more accessable pisses you off..BOO!
    Ignorance is bliss, eh GGA?


    LOL. Yep, add 40 million to the list of covered, artificially depress doctor wages (making the profession less attractive to enter), don't do anything about tort reform, and yet health care is going to end up 'more accessible.'

    Libs are funny.

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    Ignorance is bliss, eh GGA?


    LOL. Yep, add 40 million to the list of covered, artificially depress doctor wages (making the profession less attractive to enter), don't do anything about tort reform, and yet health care is going to end up 'more accessible.'

    Libs are funny.
    Or try to take the middle-man insurance vultures out of the equation. Conservatives are funny when they trash something that has worked throughout the rest of the world.

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    "work" is an interesting verb.

    Anyways, we're headed in the wrong direction. But it's trendy, so enjoy.

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    Uncle Samta Claus will pay for it all!!!11 Good Lord this country is stupid.

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    Or try to take the middle-man insurance vultures out of the equation. Conservatives are funny when they trash something that has worked throughout the rest of the world.
    What country has it worked? Have any medical advancements come from those countries?

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    Uncle Samta Claus will pay for it all!!!11 Good Lord this country is stupid.
    It hasn't exactly been a strong decade for the people with faith in unrestrained markets being efficient for us with Enron's rape of this nation, CDS crashing our entire economy, health care costs spiraling out of control here while they're being reined in everywhere else in the first world, American jobs going to China because of essentially arbitrage opportunities, gas prices shooting through the roof last year when even demand was going down, median incomes not keeping up with inflation while the richest control even more of the wealth, etc.

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