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    Now that it appears the Suns will trade Amare, what are the chances that Nash, Hill and Richardson get dealt as well? Why would Nash and Hill want to stick with the Suns if they are willing to take garbage back in a Amare trade? Its time for Kerr to tear it down completely.

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    They won't trade Nash.

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    lol banned DUNCANownsKOBE2's Avatar
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    Why would Nash and Hill want to stick with the Suns

    Idk, it could have something to do with the fact they both signed contracts with them last summer. Nash and Hill have made it clear they don't give two s about winning.

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    I like Hill. He's been pretty solid

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    I like Hill. He's been pretty solid

    He started off well and has done jack since then.

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    Hill needs to retire. He doesn't really have much left in the tank.

    I think the Suns need to start rebuilding right now. Trade Nash for youth. This season is obviously a complete failure, so we might as well tank starting now.

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    They can start by trading for Jefferson and Rubio.

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    They can start by trading for Jefferson and Rubio.

    Why do people think Vicky Rubio will be any good?

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    Get Sarver out!!!! pauls931's Avatar
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    amare is intentionally fouling tonight to protect himself.

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    Gragic + salary cap filler for Dirk

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    He started off well and has done jack since then.
    Kind of like the Suns this season.

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    Kind of like the Suns this season.
    how true. the start was way more than what the league expected

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    Kind of like the Suns this season.

    Thanks for stating the obvious!

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    Idk, it could have something to do with the fact they both signed contracts with them last summer. Nash and Hill have made it clear they don't give two s about winning.
    What would you have said if Nash and Hill bailed on the Suns after last season? They get some credit from me for not doing what so many star players do. Guys like Gary Payton and Karl Malone became ring chasers in their last few seasons.

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    lol banned DUNCANownsKOBE2's Avatar
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    What would you have said if Nash and Hill bailed on the Suns after last season?

    Not everyone is like you and only watches the Suns because of Nash. Considering I wanted the Suns to rebuild and get a young team I would have been more than happy with Nash and Hill leaving.

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    Not everyone is like you and only watches the Suns because of Nash. Considering I wanted the Suns to rebuild and get a young team I would have been more than happy with Nash and Hill leaving.
    And yet Kerr wanted them back to make that Kurt Thomas trade easier to digest. They owe OKC a first round pick this year and tearing it down would have meant a top five pick is given away. At least now the Suns will be surrendering a pick between 12 and 15.

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    They owe OKC a first round pick this year and tearing it down would have meant a top five pick is given away. At least now the Suns will be surrendering a pick between 12 and 15.

    What does making the pick OKC gets worse do for the Suns?

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    They won't trade Nash.
    No but they can hold him as a hostage and request 30000000000 U$D from the Canadian government, so they can afford James, Wade and Bosh next summer

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    What does making the pick OKC gets worse do for the Suns?

    Well, for starters they would be making another Western Conference team much better. Second of all, when you make a bad trade you better make sure you do everything possible to minimize the damage. How awful would Kerr look if he ended up giving away a top lottery pick simply for the gaining cap relief on Kurt Thomas's contract.

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    Well, for starters they would be making another Western Conference team much better. Second of all, when you make a bad trade you better make sure you do everything possible to minimize the damage. How awful would Kerr look if he ended up giving away a top lottery pick simply for the gaining cap relief on Kurt Thomas's contract.

    I asked what that does for the Suns. Waiting a year to rebuild in order to make a trade look less bad than it was is some of the dumbest logic I've ever heard. I could really give a about how high or low OKC's pick is, Phoenix won't be competing with them for the foreseeable future after this year, I want them to do what is best for the Suns' future, not what is best for Kerr's resume.

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    You guys HAVE to trade Amare. Your season is withering away. Early on it looked like a whole different Suns team. You guys were winning...even playing some good defense.

    I think that was the last sign of a good Suns team though. Get something for Amare before he walks away.

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    You guys HAVE to trade Amare. Your season is withering away. Early on it looked like a whole different Suns team. You guys were winning...even playing some good defense.

    I think that was the last sign of a good Suns team though. Get something for Amare before he walks away.

    Why is everyone so worried about trading a 27 year old player who has plenty of good years left? Trading Nash and Hill should be a way higher priority.

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    Why is everyone so worried about trading a 27 year old player who has plenty of good years left? Trading Nash and Hill should be a way higher priority.
    Well it seems as if Amare will walk. He is already talking about how he thinks he will be traded, the team might not make the playoffs. Why would he want to stay? If he did, then yeah the Suns should not trade him, but what is the benefit of taking the high risk of him walking away?

    And the only way a team takes old players is if they are borderline contenders ala the Pistons in 04 trading for Rasheed.

    But what team in the NBA that is almost a contender needs a good veteran PG?
    Atlanta? They have Bibby and Johnson
    Charlotte? Maybe but they are probably going to roll with their young guys
    Orlando? That could be good actually. Very good. Who would Orlando trade though?

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    Well it seems as if Amare will walk. He is already talking about how he thinks he will be traded, the team might not make the playoffs. Why would he want to stay? If he did, then yeah the Suns should not trade him, but what is the benefit of taking the high risk of him walking away.

    And the only way a team takes old players is if they are borderline contenders ala the Pistons in 04 trading for Rasheed.

    But what team in the NBA that is almost a contender needs a good veteran PG?
    Atlanta? They have Bibby and Johnson
    Charlotte? Maybe but they are probably going to roll with their young guys
    Orlando? That could be good actually. Very good. Who would Orlando trade though?

    If Donny Walsh approves, Antoni would surely make a trade for his little butt buddy. The reason I'm pissed is because Portland offered Phoenix a tempting package of young players this off season for Nash and they chose to extend him.

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    I asked what that does for the Suns. Waiting a year to rebuild in order to make a trade look less bad than it was is some of the dumbest logic I've ever heard. I could really give a about how high or low OKC's pick is, Phoenix won't be competing with them for the foreseeable future after this year, I want them to do what is best for the Suns' future, not what is best for Kerr's resume.

    Dumb logic? Part of the role of GM is to make sure that fellow GM's don't benefit from your mistakes. Also, how are the Suns supposed to rebuild this season when they don't have any picks in the 2010 draft? It wasn't a bad idea to hold on to assets like Amare, Nash and Hill. You wait until the trade deadline and there will be some desperate teams willing to give up some young talent. Look at Miami for instance. They need to show Wade that they are intent on winning.

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