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Not stolen
a) Texas War of Independence (1835 - 1836)
b) Mexican-American War (1846–1848)
that we stole. We stole it first, ese.
Ironically these signs are written in spanish ....
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Cortez ? Coronado ? de Soto ? Balboa ? de Leon ?
Not stolen
a) Texas War of Independence (1835 - 1836)
b) Mexican-American War (1846–1848)
The History of the Spanish Conquistadors
Spain had successfully taken the Iberian peninsula from the Muslim Moors after nearly eight hundred years of conflict. This victory was referred to as the 'reconquista'. The conflict with the Muslim Moors had been seen as a continuation of the Medieval Crusades. The crusades were a series of religious Holy Wars which had been given the blessing of the Pope. They were fought by Roman Catholic soldiers. The Spanish explorers / soldiers saw their mission to conquer new lands as a natural extension of the Medieval crusades. Roman Catholic Priests and Friars always accompanied the Spanish explorers who were expected to convert heathen natives to Christianity. The explorer / soldiers who travelled to the New World adopted the name 'Conquistadors'.
So you're worried about the illegal immigration of full-blooded Spaniards.
I love that top picture, "Stolen Continent."
I wonder which one of the two he means...
Also, there are three ways to claim sovereignty over a piece of geography; by right of discovery (you find it and no one legitimately or strenuously objects to you being the rightful discoverer), right of deed (you buy it from someone who has legitimate claim to the land), or by right of conquest (you take it by force).
Since these protesters can no longer claim right of discovery, after all, we've been a globally recognized sovereign nation for a bit over 200 years now; they can either buy it back or take it back by force.
I don't think they have the money or the military resources to do either.
But, regardless, I'm not aware of a legitimate means to acquiring land, which they've adopted and I'll call "right of whining."
Perhaps they should be holding these protests in Mexico City ?
They'll get it "back" soon enough. Give it some time.
Agreed.
rather than .....Denver which is where these photos are from.
Funny it's not the Apache tribes of Colorado protesting....it is the children of ....the oppressors, who killed them.
The Europeans didn't "discover" the Americas 500 years ago.
The Americas had millions of aboriginal inhabitants who had crossed over from Asia 1000s of years ago.
So the imperliaistic Europeans invaded and "stole" by force and by genocide (and by germ warfare with diseases unknown to aboriginal Americans).
obsessed much?
lol malkin
lol you stole my land
All this, next on "What We're Getting Worked Up About Today."
lol mailing list outrage
lol Mestizo's making a claim to Colorado...
At least they don't have any signs criticizing Obama. That would be racist.
Not to nitpick, but shouldn't this sign read "Stolen Continents"?
Holy . Look at all the solid-white shirts in that photo. I hope it wasn't MLK day.
Sure. In some cases, land was taken incident to war.
The winner takes land as the price of peace, as legal composition, post-hostilities. To the losers it looks like conquest.
Even if it is not, the result is much the same.
We paid the Mexican government $25 million for the land. That is in comparison to only $15 million to France for the Louisiana Purchase. And in 1850 the dollar was worth more than in 1803. Plus the land we got from Mexico was mostly desert. And it was less land as well. So shut the up.
You are correct, The Americas were diecovered much earlier but as you well know the victors write the history. So the Europeans discovered the Americas becasue God wanted them to come and Cristianize the savage heathens occupying it. Those heathens died due th their sins and God rightfully and graciously gave the new land to his chosen people.
As for "germ warfare" they did indeeed cough a few times and casue some death but there is another theory about why there was such a massive extinction of the native population. Virus. Years of extreme drought followed by years of extreme wetness caused a virus to attack the food sources of the New World. Of the approx. 20 miilion natives at the time of the Spanish conquest beginning in 1521 approx. 2.5 - 3 million died between 1540 - 1545 and another 15+ million between 1580 - 1580. Both times periods followed the above weather pattern - dry then wet. And this has lead some historians that believe that it wasn't neccessarily "germ warfare" by the Europeans that was the main culprit. I tend to agree since if it was "germ warfare" then why the time lapse? Why did it take that many years to effect the native population and why were the majority effective in those two particular time frames?
Though interesting to know it has absolutely no effect on who we are today. That issue is a dead horse and anyone who has a problem with it needs to get over it. It isn't going back to what it was. No mulligans can be played.
But seriusly what is the point here?
When viewing this issue at what point in history do you stop and draw the line? Say we stop in 1000 AD so all the conquests prior are legitimate?
Empires, countries, cultures...etc have come and go over thousands of years. All continents are essentially melting pots to a certain degree.
This is such a waste of time.
Andat Hispanics complaining to Anglos about stealing their land. Now that's a joke.
Even back then, Mexico abused us pitilessly.All the land we got thru Guadalupe-Hidalgo and the Gadsden Purchase only goes to show how bad they gypped us again.
Spaniards are not = latinos from central and south america
just want to remind everyone. They speak spanish like Spaniards do, but that's because Spain conquered them and taught them how. They are not the same peoples.
lol
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