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    Pelosi: Unemployment Checks Fastest Way to Create Jobs

    Unemployment benefits are creating jobs faster than practically any other program, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Thursday.

    Talking to reporters, the House speaker was defending a jobless benefits extension against those who say it gives recipients little incentive to work. By her reasoning, those checks are helping give somebody a job.

    "It injects demand into the economy," Pelosi said, arguing that when families have money to spend it keeps the economy churning. "It creates jobs faster than almost any other initiative you can name."

    Pelosi said the aid has the "double benefit" of helping those who lost their jobs and acting as a "job creator" on the side.

    "It's impossible to think of a situation where we would have a country that would say we're not going to have unemployment benefits," Pelosi said.

    Economic Vital Signs Flashing Red as Obama Shifts Political Course Democrats have been trying for more than a month to pass a bill extending jobless benefits to more than 1 million people. Currently, jobless benefits last nearly two years -- up to 26 weeks paid by state treasuries with federal help for up to an additional 73 weeks.

    Of course, those workers could be sending a lot more money into the economy if they had jobs since unemployment benefits generally do not cover the entire cost of lost wages.

    The counterintuitive statement drew jeers from Republicans, who claim Democrats can't figure out any way to tackle the economic slump that doesn't involve spending massive amounts of taxpayer money.

    "No plan to create jobs -- just more stimulus spending," House Republican Leader John Boehner said at a dueling press conference.

    Despite the wave of unemployment aid and stimulus spending dating back to the end of the Bush administration, the jobless rate is still hovering close to 10 percent. New figures out Thursday showed new jobless benefits claims rising for the second time in three weeks.

    Rep. Dave Camp, R-Mich., on Thursday called the newest extension plan "fiscal insanity" because it is not paid for and will only create future problems.

    "I support, and Republicans have supported, extending unemployment benefits, but we must not do so at a cost to the deficit, to the economy and to future generations. Our inability to get our fiscal house in order isn't just damaging future generations; it is wreaking havoc on jobs today," he said in a statement.

    Pelosi criticized Republicans Thursday, saying she's still optimistic the bill will pass though it failed again in the Senate Wednesday night.

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    Pelosi: Unemployment Checks Fastest Way to Create Jobs

    Unemployment benefits are creating jobs faster than practically any other program, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Thursday.

    Talking to reporters, the House speaker was defending a jobless benefits extension against those who say it gives recipients little incentive to work. By her reasoning, those checks are helping give somebody a job.

    "It injects demand into the economy," Pelosi said, arguing that when families have money to spend it keeps the economy churning. "It creates jobs faster than almost any other initiative you can name."

    Pelosi said the aid has the "double benefit" of helping those who lost their jobs and acting as a "job creator" on the side.

    "It's impossible to think of a situation where we would have a country that would say we're not going to have unemployment benefits," Pelosi said.

    Economic Vital Signs Flashing Red as Obama Shifts Political Course Democrats have been trying for more than a month to pass a bill extending jobless benefits to more than 1 million people. Currently, jobless benefits last nearly two years -- up to 26 weeks paid by state treasuries with federal help for up to an additional 73 weeks.

    Of course, those workers could be sending a lot more money into the economy if they had jobs since unemployment benefits generally do not cover the entire cost of lost wages.

    The counterintuitive statement drew jeers from Republicans, who claim Democrats can't figure out any way to tackle the economic slump that doesn't involve spending massive amounts of taxpayer money.

    "No plan to create jobs -- just more stimulus spending," House Republican Leader John Boehner said at a dueling press conference.

    Despite the wave of unemployment aid and stimulus spending dating back to the end of the Bush administration, the jobless rate is still hovering close to 10 percent. New figures out Thursday showed new jobless benefits claims rising for the second time in three weeks.

    Rep. Dave Camp, R-Mich., on Thursday called the newest extension plan "fiscal insanity" because it is not paid for and will only create future problems.

    "I support, and Republicans have supported, extending unemployment benefits, but we must not do so at a cost to the deficit, to the economy and to future generations. Our inability to get our fiscal house in order isn't just damaging future generations; it is wreaking havoc on jobs today," he said in a statement.

    Pelosi criticized Republicans Thursday, saying she's still optimistic the bill will pass though it failed again in the Senate Wednesday night.

    so people on unemployment spend their money that flows back into the economy.... what's the issue jack?

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    so people on unemployment spend their money that flows back into the economy.... what's the issue jack?
    I know you're asking jack, but to me, it's a self limiting ponzi scheme for starters.
    Last edited by TeyshaBlue; 07-01-2010 at 05:00 PM.

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    Ideally, unemployment checks would cover monthly bills and necessities and therefore wouldn't really inject new money into the economy, except, I suppose, grocery stores.

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    So Nancy Pelosi is advocating trickle down economics? Subs ute "tax cuts" for "unemployment checks" and you have a winner.

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    Unemployment Checks Serve As "Job Creator"

    What a dumb ing


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    tbh Republicans have a long history of not giving a about poor people. Nothing really new to see here in this thread. If they were concerned about slackers they would be complaining about the fact that the unemployment office doesn't do a good enough job of making sure people are actually looking for work.

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    Doesn't give a about poor people...


    They may give you other's money or money they can just print out of their asses...but that does not mean they actually give a about you.

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    tbh Republicans have a long history of not giving a about poor people. Nothing really new to see here in this thread. If they were concerned about slackers they would be complaining about the fact that the unemployment office doesn't do a good enough job of making sure people are actually looking for work.
    Actually that pisses me off. They have to "try" 3 times a week. I get the calls every ing day. Usually it's the wife. "Ju hiring?" no "OK, whatchur name?".

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    the problem is nothing is created.

    where does the govt get the money for these checks again? oh yea, they borrowed it.

    dumbasses

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    So Nancy Pelosi is advocating trickle down economics? Subs ute "tax cuts" for "unemployment checks" and you have a winner.
    She's sending unemployment checks to the richest Americans?

    How do you cut income tax on someone who has no income?

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    kinda ironic that the jobs unemployment creates probably pays less than unemployment

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    tbh Republicans have a long history of not giving a about poor people. Nothing really new to see here in this thread. If they were concerned about slackers they would be complaining about the fact that the unemployment office doesn't do a good enough job of making sure people are actually looking for work.
    I am for doing good to the poor, but...I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. I observed...that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.

    -bf

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    She's sending unemployment checks to the richest Americans?

    How do you cut income tax on someone who has no income?
    I really thought you were smarter/more knowledgeable than that.

    Supply side economic theory (also known as trickle down) advocates cutting taxes on individuals and business with the theory being that they would spend that money not sent to the government and stimulate the economy and create jobs.

    This theory is routinely lampooned by liberals.

    I'm saying that subs ute "tax cuts" with "unemployment benefits" and thats exactly what Pelosi said yesterday.

    Are you saying that you agree with her 100% and fully support her statement?

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    I really thought you were smarter/more knowledgeable than that.
    Really??................................Seriously?

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    Chumpdumper Theory: If a liberal says it- it's golden.

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    so people on unemployment spend their money that flows back into the economy.... what's the issue jack?
    Hmmm....

    If that helps the economy by putting money in it, then why don't tax breaks do the same thing?

    Think Ms. Pelosi can answer that one?

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    So Nancy Pelosi is advocating trickle down economics? Subs ute "tax cuts" for "unemployment checks" and you have a winner.
    No kidding. I thought the democrats said it doesn't work...

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    tbh Republicans have a long history of not giving a about poor people.
    Bull . That's a lie you liberals propagate.
    Nothing really new to see here in this thread. If they were concerned about slackers they would be complaining about the fact that the unemployment office doesn't do a good enough job of making sure people are actually looking for work.
    LOL...

    You say they don't care... If they tried to implement checks, they would be said not to care, or be racist, or something. You liberals complain about republicans no matter what they do.

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    So Nancy Pelosi is advocating trickle down economics? Subs ute "tax cuts" for "unemployment checks" and you have a winner.
    Um, nooooo. It is pretty much the opposite of "trickle down" economics. It is an attempt to drive aggregate demand, not aggregate supply.

    Respectfully:

    You might want to read up a bit on the terms.

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    [Republicans not giving a about poor people] a lie you liberals propagate.
    Republicans that I see on message boards don't tend to say things that contradict that statement.

    " the poor" seems to be a fair restatement of many of the sentiments.

    "the poor are poor because of their bad decisions"

    "why are you going to pick my pocket to pay some lazy not to work?"

    Do these statements sound empathetic to you? Do you disagree with them?

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    Republicans that I see on message boards don't tend to say things that contradict that statement.

    " the poor" seems to be a fair restatement of many of the sentiments.

    "the poor are poor because of their bad decisions"

    "why are you going to pick my pocket to pay some lazy not to work?"

    Do these statements sound empathetic to you? Do you disagree with them?
    These statements of extreme narrative sound like the extremely simplistic bumper-sticker populism that this particular, albeit somewhat disenfranchised Republican, disagrees with. That being said, these statements, posited as black and white with no acknowledgement of grey, is not an entirely accurate snapshot of what I think is a typical Republican's mindset. I could be wrong. There might be a decimal I misplaced somewhere.

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