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    Saytowns Fawtbox King lebomb's Avatar
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    in LA and how many rings would Kobe have won in Cleveland if you would have done a swap of the two.

    I say the same in both situations.

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    you fail at trollin' me TheMACHINE's Avatar
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    WHAT IF's

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    9mm nkdlunch's Avatar
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    O & 44!!! Now, go back &
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    Precisely.

    I just thank Christ that Artest didn't implode.

    tee, hee.

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    Dragon style JamStone's Avatar
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    LeBron 4 (with Shaq)
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    LeBron would have the same three as Kobe's first three plus the Lakers would have won in 2004. Assuming Shaq left the same way over his gripe with Buss, LeBron wouldn't have won anymore by this time. LeBron wouldn't have ed to the front office and threaten to leave or demand a trade. He'd just quit and leave the Lakers when he'd be a free agent.

    Kobe wins zero les with Cleveland, just like LeBron. Most likely, he'd have to demand a trade or leave as well. But it would depend where he went if he could win a le elsewhere.

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    idk but the spurs would of still shut them hoe ass lakers down...

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    you fail at trollin' me TheMACHINE's Avatar
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    Precisely.

    I just thank Christ that Artest didn't implode.

    tee, hee.
    but but but...What IF he did implode?

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    O & 44!!! Now, go back &
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    idk but the spurs would of still shut them hoe ass lakers down...
    Provided the Suns didn't get in yer way.

    tee, hee.

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    Where Everything Happens The Franchise's Avatar
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    LeBron 4 (with Shaq)
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    LeBron would have the same three as Kobe's first three plus the Lakers would have won in 2004. Assuming Shaq left the same way over his gripe with Buss, LeBron wouldn't have won anymore by this time. LeBron wouldn't have ed to the front office and threaten to leave or demand a trade. He'd just quit and leave the Lakers when he'd be a free agent.

    Kobe wins zero les with Cleveland, just like LeBron. Most likely, he'd have to demand a trade or leave as well. But it would depend where he went if he could win a le elsewhere.
    That sounds about right.

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    you fail at trollin' me TheMACHINE's Avatar
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    hmm what if Jordan didn't play baseball....would the Rockets even have a ring?

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    Where Everything Happens The Franchise's Avatar
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    hmm what if Jordan didn't play baseball....would the Rockets even have a ring?
    That's like asking: How many rings would Kobe have without Shaq and Gasol?

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    you fail at trollin' me TheMACHINE's Avatar
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    That's like asking: How many rings would Kobe have without Shaq and Gasol?
    or how many rings Kobe would have without Derek Fisher right?

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    Who knows?

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    kick rocks
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    or how many rings Kobe would have without Derek Fisher right?
    Fisher = Gasol/Shaq


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    PELICANS!!! BRHornet45's Avatar
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    Lebron - 4 (3 with Shaq, 1 with Gasol)

    Kobe - 0 (no big man to hold his hand every step of the way)

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    Believe. TheGreatest23's Avatar
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    You s really think Prime Shaq and Lebron could share the paint together. What made Shaq good was that he had ing great perimeter players on his team.

    Lebron and Shaq together < Kobe and Shaq together

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    Believe. usdane's Avatar
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    Either you win them or you don't.

    Kobe 5
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    I order to win them you got to play yourself in the finals and Kobe have that in 7 of 14 seasons. Lebron 1 in 7 and he got ing swept that one time.

    Lebron can't even tie Kobe's shoes yet.

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    You s really think Prime Shaq and Lebron could share the paint together. What made Shaq good was that he had ing great perimeter players on his team.

    Lebron and Shaq together < Kobe and Shaq together
    Still hurts?

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    Drive for Five! ambchang's Avatar
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    Lebron would have won 3 straight by now.

    Kobe probably wouldn't even sniff the 2nd round if he swapped places with Lebron.

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    you fail at trollin' me TheMACHINE's Avatar
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    Lebron would have won 3 straight by now.

    Kobe probably wouldn't even sniff the 2nd round if he swapped places with Lebron.
    Lebron probably would have gone to the finals the first year....then fail. Get an upgrade of teammates and fail at the WCF....then get even more better teamates, then get eliminated in the 2nd round.

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    Believe. NASHville's Avatar
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    Provided the Suns didn't get in yer way.

    tee, hee.
    Word

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    Veteran LkrFan's Avatar
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    You s really think Prime Shaq and Lebron could share the paint together. What made Shaq good was that he had ing great perimeter players on his team.

    Lebron and Shaq together < Kobe and Shaq together
    Word. LeHype couldn't shoot well enough to provide Shaq with the space he needed to do his thing. That's why a Shaq/LeHype combo in Cleveland didn't work. Kobe had LeHype's slashing ability with a jumper (deadly combination). Shaq/Kobe were the best combo in NBA history. Kobe/Pau will be a top 5 duo before it is all said and done though.

    Now the fun part...

    Fact or fiction: LeHype as a leader of a team = 0 rings. And I will add that LeHype has always had a team built around him. We've seen those results. Fact

    Fact or fiction: Kobe as a leader of a team = 2 rings (and counting). We've seen Kobe drag a team of Kwame, LO, Cook, Luke, and Smush to the playoffs and scare the living out of a stacked Suns team. Then we saw what he did when his front office put competent pieces around him. Fact

    Truth be told, LeHype doesn't have the will to win that Kobe had. There were many close calls for the Lakers. Here is one with Shaq/Kobe and with Kobe/Gasol:

    1) Down 15 to 2000 Blazers in WCF - W
    2) Down 13 to the 2010 Celtic Bums in Finals - W

    ^In either scenario, sub LeHype for Kobe and the Lakers lose because he can't shoot. Thems be the facts...

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    TD since 97 ezau's Avatar
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    Either you win them or you don't.

    Kobe 5
    Lebron 0

    I order to win them you got to play yourself in the finals and Kobe have that in 7 of 14 seasons. Lebron 1 in 7 and he got ing swept that one time.

    Lebron can't even tie Kobe's shoes yet.
    So Kobe would win in Cleveland five times and Lebron won't win with prime Shaq?

    Last I checked, without a great big man, Kobe failed to take his team to the playoffs. How is he going to win a championship in Cleveland? ing delusional Laker fan

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    TD since 97 ezau's Avatar
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    Lebron would have won 3 straight by now.

    Kobe probably wouldn't even sniff the 2nd round if he swapped places with Lebron.
    Kobe won't even make the playoffs if he wore a Cavs jersey back in 07. tee, hee

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    Believe. usdane's Avatar
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    So Kobe would win in Cleveland five times and Lebron won't win with prime Shaq?

    Last I checked, without a great big man, Kobe failed to take his team to the playoffs. How is he going to win a championship in Cleveland? ing delusional Laker fan
    No he didn't. Last I checked we played the Suns two years in a row with teams that did not belong there and we were a rebound from knocking them out.

    LOL. Comparing the west to east. The East has been a cakewalk for most of the past decade. Win about 40% and you are in the playoffs.

    Kobe may not have beaten the Spurs in 07 if he played for the Cavs. But I can assure you he would not have been swept.

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