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    Kobe Bryant is still more unlikeable than Lebron James

    For a long time, people loved LeBron James(notes). Totally loved him in a non-platonic way (for the most part). At the same time, Kobe Bryant(notes) has been one of the most hated players in the NBA for the past few seasons. But it is funny how a summer can change things.

    Now, after LeBron's decision and "The Decision," more and more people dislike LeBron James. Whether they think he's a coward, a jerk or just has a bad beard, the LeBron James train has less and less people enjoying its complimentary peanuts. And while LeBron has been busy making people angry, Kobe has been enjoying a great run that has seen him win an Olympic gold medal and two straight les while staying out of headlines for anything bad. The tables have turned.

    Or so you'd think. But according to Q Scores revealed by CNBC's Darren Rovell, some things will never change.
    In January 2010, The Q Scores Company took a poll of the general population and found that 24 percent of people thought of James in a positive light, compared to a 22 percent negative opinion.
    Henry Schafer, executive vice president of the company, told CNBC that the average sports personality has a 15 percent positive score and a 24 percent negative score.
    "LeBron's positive score at that time was the highest we had ever seen it," Schafer said.
    But since "The Decision" show on July 8, things have gone seriously downhill for the NBA star.
    LeBron's Q Score today?
    Schafer says that now only 14 percent of the general population see him as a positive figure, a 41.6 percent drop, while 39 percent view him in a negative light, a 77 percent decline.
    In fact, LeBron is now the sixth most disliked sports personality, according to The Q Score Company, behind Michael Vick, Tiger Woods, Terrell Owens, Chad Ochocinco and Kobe Bryant.
    It's close, and actually Kobe is more well-liked — according to Steven Levitt at Q Scores, Kobe's positive score of 16 and negative score of 40 are close to LeBron's scores of 14 and 39 — but people still dislike Kobe more than LeBron. All is right with the world and nothing has changed. Well, except that a whole lot of people dislike LeBron James right now. That part has changed, for sure.

    Not to mention, the extent to which people dislike LeBron James is kind of amazing. They dislike him so much that it's affecting how much they like his new teammates. As Rovell notes, both Chris Bosh(notes) and Dwyane Wade(notes) have seen their positive scores fall and their negative scores rise. Makes sense, and it's good to see that LeBron is already changing the culture of basketball in Miami.

    On the other hand, after a great two year run, this proves that there's really nothing Kobe Bryant can do that will make him well-liked to fans. It doesn't seem like he minds that, at all, but it's still interesting that changing teams like LeBron did kills his popularity while becoming one of the biggest winners in the NBA has had no effect on most people's view of Kobe. I don't think that's a problem for the Mamba, but I do think that's a problem for LeBron and it might be tough for him to realize that championships don't equal adulation.

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    I think no other great in NBA history is hated and despised by fans as Kobe is. Aside from the Colorado incident, there must be something in him that would automatically turn people away. I dunno, but after years of winning and being successful, it's surprising how many people still dislike him.

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    I still like him, his game mentality and work ethic after going 6-24

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    haters won't stop hatin'. the main reason they hate kobe more than they hate lebron is that they know kobe will surpass jordan and if that happens all will break loose for them. these are the same mother ers who claimed jordan as a god and an undisputable GOAT even before he retired. then came along this 18 year old kid straight out of highschool who had that same swagger and a crazy work ethic. they feel like kobe is more of a threat than lebron.

    Quit Hatin'

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    what the is kobe doing on that picture

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    Hating Kobe has nothing to do with his "legacy"..I've hated him forever, and my hate hasn't grew since he started winning again, it doesn't make a difference to me..

    Kobe is probably the most unlikable player in sports history IMO..being a rapist and proven snitch is obviously at the top of the list, but the list is very long, including on-court behavior, incidents with teammates, off-court incidents, quitting and pretty much anything negative that you can think of..

    Winning has made a huge difference though, particularly with Kobe's legacy..it hasn't made him more likable, but it has made the media overrate and heavily inflate his legacy and career, so it has definitely had a huge part..

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    Both are pussies

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    As long as he continues to ring repeatedly & at length, I could give two hearty s.

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    Kobe seems like a . Seems like he might be fun to hang out with if you don't get to know him too personally and you're just having a few drinks with the guy and joking around. But he comes across as the type of guy who is a jerk of a person if you get to know him on a deeper level than that. At least to me, it seems that way.

    But I don't think he was hated that much by most before Colorado. I think that specific incident and the story about him snitching on Shaq are by far the main two reasons he's hated. Before that, he was a very likable guy. Had the all American image with the McDonald's and Sprite commercials, the big smile, and being well spoken. Colorado is what did him in. There are other things to hate on him for, but Colorado has to be the main reason for most of his haters. Even when people hate on him for other things, they'll have to throw in a jab about him being a rapist.

    Does seem like the hate is not on a global scale, as we saw in the 2008 Olympics and reports were that he was by far the most popular player on the basketball team with Chinese fans and other Olympians. He's gotten some of his likability back.

    As far as most hated NBA player in history, hard to imagine that being true. Nearly every NBA stadium, there are Laker fans chanting MVP to Kobe the last couple seasons. Outside of Utah, Karl Malone was really hated. Bill Laimbeer was one of the most hated players ever by fans around the league. You could even throw in Ron Artest into the discussion. Kobe has plenty of haters, but to suggest he's the most hated by fans in NBA history. Well that seems like quite an exaggeration.

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    Jammie, gettin' his windbag on.

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    Kobe is well-hated on in the US but Asia and Europe is like his empire

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    there's probably 30 guys in the NBA that I think you can objectively say deserve to be hated more. at the top should be James.

    the only thing I dislike about Kobe is that I still think he's selfish. he was going to win that Finals MVP no matter what. Gasol had probably half as many shots as him in the Finals and shot a better percentage. his ego wouldn't have been able to take the hit of yet again having a big get the Finals MVP.

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    I think no other great in NBA history is hated and despised by fans as Kobe is. Aside from the Colorado incident, there must be something in him that would automatically turn people away. I dunno, but after years of winning and being successful, it's surprising how many people still dislike him.


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    Die MuthaFcuker....Die Mutha er...DIE!

    lol meltdown

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    Kobe is well-hated on in the US but Asia and Europe is like his empire
    Like Jerry Lewis.

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    Bill Laimbeer was one of the most hated players ever by fans around the league.
    I never disliked Laimbeer, but I understand why everyone hated him. I also firmly believe if he was traded to any team, he would immediately have been embraced and loved by their fans. He's the kind of guy every fan wished was on their team.

    As far as Kobe and LeBron go, I have neither ever been a big fan of either, nor have I hated them, contrary to what HH37/MiamiHeat/Ace believes. They do what they do and that's it. In a way, Kobe could be compared with President Nixon in some ways. Both did things everyone else in their position did, but they got caught. You know Kobe had to have been scoring pussy on the road for years. I am pretty certain he cleaned up his act since Colorado. All he needs is to screw another girl and watch her cry rape. However, history has been kinder to Nixon in recent history. At his funeral, Clinton more of less said the history books weren't done evaluating him. His foreign policy was unmatached, and he is one of the few presidents to keep his campaign promises:

    1) Got 18 year olds the vote
    2) Eliminated the military draft
    3) Got the USA out of Viet Nam.

    I still laugh at these promises:
    1988: Bush Sr. "I want to be known as the Education President."
    1992: Clinton: "I will get every man, woman, and child in America health care."

    Anyway, as Colorado fades, people forget about it and look at what he's doing now. Some of Kobe's criticism is deserved, such as throwing teammates under the bus, but plenty isn't. The haters can't let go. He didn't force a trade to the Lakers, it was a pre-draft deal, and he isn't a rapist, he's an adulter. He didn't drive Jackson and Shaq out, that was Buss's call and Shaq agrees. My only complaint about LeBron was the way he left Cleveland, embarrasing them on national TV. However, it was big news, so who am I to judge. The jury is out on how both Kobe and LeBron will eventually be viewed, so just let them play. When they're done playing we'll have new big names to get our attention.

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    Though Clinton is the lone duly elected U.S. President to have his ass IMPEACHED.

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    Hate him all you want who cares,Muhammad Ali was 1000x more hated when he was boxing and now people kiss the ground he walks on. Hate is a matter of opinion,unless KOBE has done something bad PERSONALLY to you how,how can you truly hate him

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    True on Ali, but, it's just because he's punch drunk, doesn't know up from down & can't wipe his own ass.

    Otherwise, he's still a draft dodging coward.

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    Though Clinton is the lone duly elected U.S. President to have his ass IMPEACHED.
    ...and acquitted.

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    If a player is hyped, he is almost always hated, whether the hate is justified or not.

    There are exceptions to this, Jordan and Peyton Manning come to mind. But Peyton has never had the charisma to elevate himself to a cultural icon, and Jordan was the complete opposite. He pioneered the modern day athlete, and cultivated his image as a "sure thing" so artfully that it changed the way every single sport is broadcast. He made the individual bigger than the team, even though he functioned within the team set.

    Almost any player who ascends to that height of being "bigger than the team" is reviled across the league, even if they don't have a single conviction on their record. Shaq is hated by many NBA fans, so is Duncan, so are Wade and LeBron, especially now that they are on the same team.

    There's a tendency in America to hate the favorite, and that plays a lot into the hate for Kobe that fuels fans. Because the media takes this hype and milks it for all it's worth, until you can't turn on Sportscenter without seeing the face of one of the super-athletes. And just like a song on the radio you've heard for the 3rd time this hour, it's natural to get sick of that kind of familiarity. Kobe's problem is that he gave people plenty of reasons to justify that hate.

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    No. Not convicted.

    He was also DISBARRED.

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    If a player is hyped, he is almost always hated, whether the hate is justified or not.

    There are exceptions to this, Jordan and Peyton Manning come to mind. But Peyton has never had the charisma to elevate himself to a cultural icon, and Jordan was the complete opposite. He pioneered the modern day athlete, and cultivated his image as a "sure thing" so artfully that it changed the way every single sport is broadcast. He made the individual bigger than the team, even though he functioned within the team set.

    Almost any player who ascends to that height of being "bigger than the team" is reviled across the league, even if they don't have a single conviction on their record. Shaq is hated by many NBA fans, so is Duncan, so are Wade and LeBron, especially now that they are on the same team.

    There's a tendency in America to hate the favorite, and that plays a lot into the hate for Kobe that fuels fans. Because the media takes this hype and milks it for all it's worth, until you can't turn on Sportscenter without seeing the face of one of the super-athletes. And just like a song on the radio you've heard for the 3rd time this hour, it's natural to get sick of that kind of familiarity. Kobe's problem is that he gave people plenty of reasons to justify that hate.
    Media couldn't get to Bryant to high tech lynch him in the aftermath of Colorado. He was under the protection of David Stern in New York City. Stern sided him and unless & until there was a jury (guilty verdict) out of Eagle he would front for Bryant, come or high water. The NBA brand was worthy of Stern's decree. You can bet the police report was ambiguous to the NYC attorneys.

    The wisdom of Bryant was two fold: he never begged the American people for "mercy." He played the race card momentarily, but, he never begged. He also stayed to play. You can bet his old man had a Lear on a tarmac out at LAX ready for the "Polanski Option."

    He also got legal advice from the Lakers attorney's on retainer. And he took it:::get a junkyard dog, cut 'em a signed blank bank draft, and last, but, not least: remove the choker chain & get the out of the way.

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