Extreme Liberals are Just as Fascist as Extreme Right-Wingers

[Parker2112]

Google CEO Eric Schmidt and film director James Cameron recently concurred that people who question the science of anthropogenic global warming are, in their opinions, "criminal".


The two made the comments during a recent on stage conversation at a private event in Silicon Valley.

"If that continues, business as usual as our leaders in Washington say is OK for us to do, we will have extincted 70% of the species on the planet by the end of the century." Cameron responded to Schmidt's line of discussion on global warming.

During the same conversation Schmidt stated, "There are people who in my view criminally doubt some of the science."

"I agree, criminally, I agree with that." Cameron interjected.

"People, we need to evolve mentally and philosophically to something that has never existed before." the Avatar director continued.

"We need to become techno-indigenous people of an entire Earth, not of a nation, not of a state, but of a planet."

Both extremes want to put their stamp of approval/disapproval on American life...

And both are just as hypocritical...

Cameron owns three large houses in Malibu, totaling 24,000 square feet - ten times the average US home. He also owns a 100 acre ranch in Santa Barbara and numerous private luxuries such as helicopters, Harley motorbikes, super cars, a yacht, and even a fleet of submarines. Nevertheless he demands that we all live with less because it is us that are responsible for killing the planet.

[Cry Havoc]

Extreme Liberals are Just as Fascist as Extreme Right-Wingers

Who doesn't know this? The problem is that the right center movement virtually doesn't exist anymore (except for you know, some Democrats) and the slightly left of center movement is characterized (demonized) by the far right as so far to the left that they fell off the merry-go-round.

I'm a centrist who leans right on a lot of issues and left on some, and I'm perceived here as some kind of extreme anti-republican anti-conservative leftist. Because that's exactly what Fox News has been trying to impart since 9/11. No one watches or roots for the WWE wrestler that they don't care about. More people tune in if there's someone to love/hate.

[Parker2112]

[clambake]

why do you hate rich people?

[Parker2112]

http://www.1010global.org/uk

[Parker2112]

why do rich people hate me?

fify

[Oh, Gee!!]

Its like yoni and darrin had a baby

[j.dizzle]

Politics as a whole in this country is a in mess these days. I got 7 year old cousins that are more mature then most of these "leaders". All these ppl in Washington are just making things worse & nobody cares about over there other then keeping their own jobs. Hopefully these politicians dont have as many fits after these elections cuz its starting to get extremely annoying.

[Parker2112]

Its like yoni and darrin had a baby

LOL...stuck in the two-party paradigm much?

[Parker2112]

This thread squarely at those who blindly cling to progressive ideals. I oppose those who blindly cling to conservative ideals as well...just ask Yoni and Darrin...

Because I believe these blind allegiances are killing the country.

[z0sa]

Define 'progressive ideals.'

[Parker2112]

Define 'progressive ideals.'

I think its pretty straightforward.

The critical part of that statement is not the part about "progressive" or "conservative", but the part about "blindly" and "cling to."

This approach has divided the nation, POLARIZATION BY DESIGN, and allowed wealth to overtake the will of the people.

[Oh, Gee!!]

LOL...stuck in the two-party paradigm much?

I meant the quality of your posts, not necessarily the content

[RandomGuy]

Define 'progressive ideals.'

I think its pretty straightforward.

Then it should be easy to define.

Do enlighten us.

[TeyshaBlue]

Then it should be easy to define.

Do enlighten us.

Death Panels!!!!111111!

[RandomGuy]

Death Panels!!!!111111!

Abortions for everyone!!!!

[Cry Havoc]

Define 'progressive ideals.'

In modern day conservative speak? It just means, "You disagree with me and I think you're a fascist/communist/Nazi sympathizer and that you hate America."

[z0sa]

In modern day conservative speak? It just means, "You disagree with me and I think you're a fascist/communist/Nazi sympathizer and that you hate America."

As close as your answer probably is, I'm still waiting for it "from the horse's mouth."

In any case, such a vague term as "progressive ideals", without any definition or constraints, cons utes a total lack of an argument.

[Parker2112]

As close as your answer probably is, I'm still waiting for it "from the horse's mouth."

In any case, such a vague term as "progressive ideals", without any definition or constraints, cons utes a total lack of an argument.

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164949, and also see the OP.

[z0sa]

Global warming is a "progressive ideal", then? You reference the OP. Are you suggesting that "putting a stamp of approval on our lives" is also progressive ideal?

[Parker2112]

combatting global warming is something progressives have championed for some time. Reducing carbon footprint through carbon markets and carbon trading, which means setting caps on what suitable carbon emissions are for corps and individuals. Is that not "putting a stamp of approval on our lives?"

And the geoengineering is just another facet of that as well. You dispute those things?

[Parker2112]

It's not a novel take.

Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning is a bestselling book on the origins and nature of fascist movements by Jonah Goldberg, a conservative syndicated columnist and the editor-at-large of National Review Online. The controversial book, published in January 2008, reached #1 on the New York Times Best Seller list of hardcover non-fiction in its seventh week on the list.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal...ry_of_contents

[Cry Havoc]

combatting global warming is something progressives have championed for some time. Reducing carbon footprint through carbon markets and carbon trading, which means setting caps on what suitable carbon emissions are for corps and individuals. Is that not "putting a stamp of approval on our lives?"

And the geoengineering is just another facet of that as well. You dispute those things?

What would you have us do? Do you believe we should continue burning fossil fuels as we choose?

You aren't exactly making a convincing argument when the position you seek to support is intelligible. Unless you're just making token statements, in which case, you're just wasting everyone's time.

[z0sa]

Unless you're just making token statements, in which case, you're just wasting everyone's time.

Definitely the gist of this thread, IMO. Is this BS really worth anyone's time, including yours, Parker? So you read a book. So a guy said something. So both sides of the aisle follows the money. Why do you think this is new information?

[Parker2112]

What would you have us do? Do you believe we should continue burning fossil fuels as we choose?

You aren't exactly making a convincing argument when the position you seek to support is intelligible. Unless you're just making token statements, in which case, you're just wasting everyone's time.

My position: Blind allegience to partisan politics destroys our country. My take: this board is full of this, and it sickens me. In addition: There are evil motherf*ckers on both sides, not just among neocons and repugs.

Now what would I do with carbon?
I dont know that there is anything that can be done, first of all...it may be too late, cuz the U-turn is gonna take tons. Second, there are those on the left who are attempting to use the scenario for personal gain and power, just as neocons have used terror wars for the same. I am not in favor of giving the power to tax to any international body, and I think thats where the left is pushing things.

So even though I would say we need to turn things around fast and reduce our consumption/pollution, I dont believe in granting power to corrupt manipulative politicians who have their eye on big $$$ through big govt.

A little perspective: After 9-11, many folks willingly wanted to shed their civil freedoms to neocons who were waiting with baited breath. Only now do we realize that the whole thing was a massive mistake. When will we see these attempts at "mass manipulation" for what they are, and in realtime?