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My guess it was a US missile.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/...n7036716.shtml
My guess it was the Chinese not so subtly telling us to stay the out of the China Sea and their little scrap with Japan.
My guess it was a US missile.
Another failed interception test?
Sorry.
*Puts away joystick*
Stupid WOPR.
Show of force maybe? (heard on a video I saw 15 minutes ago)
It's definitely military unless my hippy buddies on Catalina Island have some damn good bottle-rockets.
Military keeps saying it wasn't them.
My guess is that you didn't read this part of that article:
1) Such a test would fit the pattern of the US Navy.
2) Such a launch near the shores of the US would be HIGHLY provocative. This is directly counter to established Chinese MO.
3) For this to be the case, either the Chinese, who highly value stability, would have to changed MO, or some rogue element within the Chinese military decided to make a statement, neither of which seems likely to me.
I view your guess as much less likely that Chump's, and concur with his.
Never took you for the naive type.
Our military has, in the past, said a lot of things that end up not being true.
While I am not paranoid about that, they certainly would not want to publicly admit to something like this.
Only a handful of nations on the planet are technologically capable of this, so the list of suspects is short, and the Navy would have every motivation not to owe up to this.
If the US s around and provoked in other countries' waters, why would USA be bothered if other countries ed around in US' waters?
Is US' privilege "exceptional", a one-way-street?
btw, anybody see Norway and Sweden claiming the US has been spying in their countries?
It's a big ocean and we have very nice submarines. If they wanted to do a secret test they sure as wouldn't do it 30 miles from a major city in broad daylight. Just sayin.
Never took you for the naive type.
BTW, the Chinese have bought all the advanced sub technology from the Soviets. You really think they couldn't have a quiet nuke missile sub sitting off the coast of California?
Unless they wanted to. Just sayin.
I'm sure they do, but actually firing a missile defeats the purpose of being quiet.BTW, the Chinese have bought all the advanced sub technology from the Soviets. You really think they couldn't have a quiet nuke missile sub sitting off the coast of California?
Are you kidding? Think about it. Sneaking in and getting a (intentionally harmless) shot off undetected?
Thats a HUGE " You!...you better not mess with us..."
Not a chance in its the Chinese for so many reasons but the number one being they lack the capability to do so.
Given the history of tensions between China and the US and the actions resulting from them, China has no real reason to do such a thing to the US over a relatively minor territorial dispute with Japan.
Why specifically would China have to tell us to not mess with them now?
It's more like an act of war.
Or would be, if things happened as you describe them.
For a minute lets assume the Chinese could somehow drop the 24 survalience that is on their missile submarines. Lets also assume that on the trip across the Pacific their very noisy subs weren't picked up by SOSUS or any other US means. Lets also assume they have the range to operate this far out. Lets also assume that the Chinese would risk a strategic deterant in such a manner.
If we go ahead and just assume all of the above then we still have to acknowledge that in the event of a missile launch right off the coast of LA you have a flight time of MAYBE 30 seconds before its going to detonate over LA. You have an immediate detection of said missile by NORAD and a very small time window by which they have to make quick fire decisions on the nature of the missile and how to respond.
You're going to risk nuclear war to flip off the United States? Yeah, I don't think so.
cc, i would have guessed you'd welcome a california strike.
He almost seems to be hoping to be able to put his doomsday plan into motion. Would seem like a bit of a waste if he never got to use it.
There's a segment of our population that views the world as happening as very chaotic place where its still the wild west only now people are slinging around nukes instead of six shooters.
Thats pretty far from the case and the world is actually a fairly calculated environment. No nation is going to sling around the threat of nuclear war very lightly.
Does QEII ring a bell?
Look, I'm not saying it was the Chinese but if it wasn't us that is a rational premise.
It can still be deployed as a crackpot theory:
China fired a missile off the coast of California and Obama just sat there doing nothing.
You got there before Yoni could post that. Dammit!
Its really not. The only rational premise is that it was us. Any ballistic missile launch off the coast of the US is liable to trigger a direct response. At the very least, you'd have several facets of the US military on high alert and you absolutely cannot hide that .
Barring that, the only plausible scenario is a US launch.
, not fair! at least bush got a phone call before the attack!
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