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    Silence surpasses speech. duncan228's Avatar
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    Just the names, hit the link for the reasoning for each player.

    Offseason signings who might get dealt
    Starting Dec. 15, teams can unload those free-agent acquisitions that haven't quite worked out
    By Ira Winderman
    NBCSports.com

    It's a rule designed to prevent teams from "flipping" free agents, luring them on the promise of stability and then immediately dealing them to less-desirable destinations.

    But perhaps it also is a means of protecting teams from themselves.

    Dec. 15 holds a special place on the NBA calendar. It is when teams effectively can say, "Uh, never mind." It is the first day that players signed in the offseason can be dealt.

    Without such a cooling-off period, rash decisions might ensue.


    ...While the Feb. 23 trading deadline remains the league's ultimate personnel deadline, Dec. 15 essentially is the starting gate for in-season maneuvering, when the bulk of the league stands trade eligible.

    That also makes it the perfect time to evaluate the signings from this past summer, as teams debate whether to hold 'em or fold 'em.

    Moving past the no-brainer offseason signings, such as the Heat's Big Three, the Knicks' addition of Amare Stoudemire, the Celtics' re-upping of Ray Allen and Paul Pierce, or the Mavericks doing the same with Dirk Nowitzki, a look at some of the other offseason signings worthy of Dec. 15 debate.

    Ultimately, keepers

    Raymond Felton, Knicks
    Shaquille, O'Neal, Celtics
    Al Harrington, Nuggets
    James Jones, Heat
    Darko Milicic, Timberwolves
    Wesley Matthews, Trail Blazers
    Richard Jefferson, Spurs

    On second thought

    Jermaine O'Neal, Celtics
    Brendan Haywood, Mavericks
    Theo Ratliff, Lakers
    Eddie House, Heat
    Tracy McGrady, Pistons
    Randy Foye, Clippers
    Anthony Carter, Nuggets
    Joe Smith, Nets

    Still open to debate

    Joel Anthony, Heat
    Steve Blake, Lakers
    Drew Gooden, Bucks
    Mike Miller, Heat
    Ben Wallace, Pistons
    http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/40536988/ns/sports-nba/
    Last edited by duncan228; 12-10-2010 at 06:11 PM.

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    I don't think this guy has any clue what the teams are gonna do.

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    I don't think this guy has any clue what the teams are gonna do.
    I hope he knows what hes talking about on Haywood though.

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    Al Harrington is playing like booty. Really bad. However, if the Nuggets trade Melo (which seems likely) they will need someone to score the ball. Watching Al play w/o Melo this week is not a good sign if that were to happen. If for some crazy reason a team actually showed legit interest in Al, I doubt the Nuggets say no if the offer is decent.

    Felton has exceeded expectations. He is playing very well. I have always thought he was an undervalued player. He is a guy who does not excel in any one area particularly, but he is solid and sturdy across the board on both ends. Kind of like a Billups type player. He and Amare have not been a perfect fit, but they have found a way to be productive and they now have a team who won 29 games last year in the playoff hunt with a 14-9 record. Pretty impressive right now.

    TP and RJ were clearly not signed to move them and it wasn't really that curious. The Spurs went all in with RJ and they had to make that move for better or worse with how this off season played out.

    Mike Miller is going no where and all of the other players he listed are such bit players that is this really a topic worth mentioning?

    Haywood is the only legit topic of conversation imo and the Mavs are in a tough spot with that one.

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    Pistons signed Will Bynum this past summer.

    Will Bynum for Andrew Bynum.

    Pistons get much needed size and youth at the center position for the future. Lakers get a Bynum who will actually play.

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    I'm surprised he didn't mention Bonner. He doesn't think that anyone would want a stretch 4 who can rain 3's down at a 50% clip?

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    pistons would be an awesome team with tmac and andrew bynum.....hurt all the time

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    No one is going to take on Haywood's contract anyway, and besides we need him, our depth at C is something that I really like about the team this year, even if his play hasn't been what we hoped.

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    Haywood is the only legit topic of conversation imo and the Mavs are in a tough spot with that one.
    Besides being over the cap for years to come. Mark Cuban doesn't care about 55 million. He will spend like a spoiled rich kid until he gets his shiny new trophy...

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    Al Harrington ting on DPG..

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    Besides being over the cap for years to come. Mark Cuban doesn't care about 55 million. He will spend like a spoiled rich kid until he gets his shiny new trophy...
    God hasn't created a man yet that doesn't care about 55 million. Theres a reason Cuban didn't win the bidding on the Rangers. He was outbid, he is not made of money.

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    I know. He showed me.

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    Dude went off, then again it was against the softest team in the league. But still, he played well tonight. He made a lot of 3's, but he also did a good job of taking it inside. He had a few good passes and did a decent job on the glass.

    Good game from him. First in a long time.

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    Besides being over the cap for years to come. Mark Cuban doesn't care about 55 million. He will spend like a spoiled rich kid until he gets his shiny new trophy...
    Maybe you just should shut up if you dont know the real numbers.

    Mavs wont trade their depth at center away to rely on freakin Ian Mahinmi but yes there are several teams that still would trade for Haywood.

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    Maybe you just should shut up if you dont know the real numbers.
    Yeah, he just should have gone with "massively overpaid".

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    Haywood is avering 8.2 million over five years, total 41 million.

    Jefferson is earning 40 million over four years.

    Too bad...

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    Haywood is avering 8.2 million over five years, total 41 million.

    Jefferson is earning 40 million over four years.

    Too bad...
    8.2M AAV for 4.3ppg/5.4rpg.

    He's Diop 2.0

    Too bad.

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    lol no one cares about numbers in Dallas.

    Its about putting two legit center with 12 fouls out there.

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    Tbh Mel_13 is lucky DoK is banned, he'd be sending Mel and many others who thought he was stupid for saying Amare > Bosh to the tree of woe. After his comments about the contract Amare deserved, he has no right to comment on who's overpaid.


    You need to actually quote my posts if you're going comment on them. I'm quite comfortable with my posts about Amare.

    Among other things, I never said DoK was stupid for saying Amare>Bosh. Never said it.

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    So you still think Bosh > Amare and the Suns were smart not to give Amare the max?
    I never said Bosh>Amare.

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    lol not responding to the other part
    You've attributed positions to me that are not mine. Use the search function, find a post that you wish comment upon, and I'll answer.

    The burden of proof is on you.

    I'm completely comfortable with everything I posted about Amare.

    lol at you making stuff up and expecting a response.

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    OK, I was partially wrong, you said Bosh is a "safer investment" than Amare, which is still pretty in stupid . You also said the Knicks will regret the contract they give Amare, which so far looks pretty in stupid as well.


    Still haven't quoted a post.

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    Bosh is.

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    Offseason signings likely to be dealt:

    Hedo Turkoglu, Suns
    Josh Childress, Suns

    (at least, that's what I'm hoping for)

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