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There's two things:::
1. Make the playoffs.
2. Win the last game you play.
There is nothing else.
Great information
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/5...ing-percentage
There's two things:::
1. Make the playoffs.
2. Win the last game you play.
There is nothing else.
I love it when brilliance comes to the board...
"You know, for 25 years I builda de boats..
when da towna folk see me walk up da street.... do dey say "here comes a giuseppe da boat builder"? no....
One time I a de goat..."
manu is 2nd in nba history in win shares , behind Larry Bird.
@manuginobili
Kobe : 5
Duncan : 4
tee,hee
Here are all time win shares per 48 minutes
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...48_career.html
1. Michael Jordan* 0.2505
2. David Robinson* 0.2502
3. Wilt Chamberlain* 0.2480
4. Neil Johnston* 0.2413
5. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 0.2284
6. Magic Johnson* 0.2249
7. LeBron James 0.2245
8. Tim Duncan 0.2177
9. Manu Ginobili 0.2173
10. Charles Barkley* 0.2163
11. Dirk Nowitzki 0.2138
...
15. Shaquille O'Neal 0.2083
...
24. Dwyane Wade 0.1915
....
28. Kobe Bryant 0.1878
Asterik * just signifies people in the hall of fame per basketball reference.
Bird is 18th.
Interesting, Shaq > Kobe.
Lebron not surprisingly leads all active players in win shares/48 minutes. Shocker. He leaves and the Cavs go from a 60 win team to the stains of the NBA.
Anyways win shares are far more useful because they at least attempt to quantify a player's individual contributions to a team's success.
Overall winning percentage is useless. The Spurs and Lakers have been the most successful teams of the decade. It should be no surprise that Ginobili/Parker/Duncan and Kobe/Shaq/Fisher hold the top 6 spots. To attribute a team statistic to an individual is fruitless.
That explanation wasn't directed to you (Darthkiller), obviously, because you smartly brought up the idea of win shares. Explanation directed towards OP.
niel johnston> lebron james
The more meaningful stat is WIN and last I looked our current win share champion hasn't won .
Career active playoff win shares per 48 minutes
1. LeBron James 0.2287
2. Dirk Nowitzki 0.2059
3. Tim Duncan 0.2037
4. Chauncey Billups 0.1936
5. Dwight Howard 0.1929
6. Baron Davis 0.1886
7. Shaquille O'Neal 0.1845
8. Manu Ginobili 0.1827
9. Pau Gasol 0.1826
10. Amare Stoudemire 0.1789
11. Dwyane Wade 0.1778
12. Ben Wallace 0.1636
13. Kobe Bryant 0.1605
14. Ray Allen 0.1557
15. Kevin Garnett 0.1543
16. Deron Williams 0.1477
17. Paul Pierce 0.1438
Lebron still #1. He hasn't won a championship but he's certainly done more than his fair share in contributing to the Cavaliers franchise. He's rank 1 in WS/48 min.
Shaq > Kobe.
Pau Gasol > Kobe.
Pau Gasol > Kobe.
Pau Gasol > Kobe.Pau Gasol > Kobe.Pau Gasol > Kobe.Pau Gasol > Kobe.Pau Gasol > Kobe.Pau Gasol > Kobe.Pau Gasol > Kobe.Pau Gasol > Kobe.Pau Gasol > Kobe.
Still & all:::
Kobe: 5
Duncan: 4
That's gold!
Fixed.
*Denotes strike shortened season. Who knows if they would have sustained their good play that year if they played the remaining 32 games or if there would have been an injury to an already ailing Admiral, or if another team would have went on a run but couldn't because there were just two many games missed that year. You never know, so an "*" is indeed called for and justified by the great PJ.
**Denotes 25-50 FTAs for the Finals MVP - depending on how many points were needed for the cHeat to win.
Just like shaved puss.
Are you sure? Can you back this up? Because I'm pretty sure he's #1...
are you ing re ed or something?
When it was:
Duncan: 4
Kobe: 3
It was:
Duncan: 4
Kobe: 3
This last one here. This one last June is a real pisser for the haters. They can't reconcile it. It cut a lot with Daddy, Duncan, and is a direct threat to the Celtics at 17.
A lot of flat ears & tight lips over it.
& Bryant knows it.
But of course, had the LAL not been swept out of the Forum and won the le, you'd happily claim to have tied the Celtics with last year's le right?
Besides, when the Spurs were playing 3 games back-to-back that season, or a game every other day to the amount of 5 games in 8 days, wasn't that challenging enough to the, as you say, already ailing DRob, who's play against Shaq was pivotal to the Spurs sweep of the LAL, thus shutting down the Forum?
LAL Ejaculates saySince we couldn't win that le, even though a full playoff schedule was played and we got our asses kicked by the Spurs, let's just join in on the PJAx mindgames and asterisk the victory, even though we full well would've gladly accepted a le that year had we won, and thus be tied with the Celtics as the teams with the most les in history.
Citin' closing down The Forum again.
Yeah... that's it. I'm re ed because I would rather have a guy with a lesser "winshare" and more wins than the opposite. You stat boys can have all your made up advanced stats. Ill take the les. Thank you!
Top 2 players in win shares have won SQUAT. Classic!
Facts are facts right G? Recognize.Citin' closing down The Forum again.
anyone notice the spelling? ginobli. lol good to see big three in the top three
David robinson, Neil johnston, charles Barkley, Dirk, in the top 12 ROFL ...
I love stats!!!
Spur haters (not real fans): "Winning les is a team accomplishment"
3 posts later: "Duncan has never missed the playoffs!!"
Which is it?
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