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    Controversy Koolaid_Man's Avatar
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    Just like when that hater Shaq slapped the outta Kobe....When is this gonna happen...them s ain't nothing like Kobe....Kobe wanted to win and be the man so ing bad he trampled all over Shaq's legacy and was more determined to make Shaq pay the price for slapping him...now I don't like airing dirty family laundry but I will do it this one time to make a point....Wade and Bron gonna have to square off before they begin to understand how to win...but then again them s not wired like Kobe was....Shaq jealous of Penny...Shaq jealous of Kobe....sometimes it just comes to this....

    Dirty Family Laundry: (there's an MJ connection as well)

    “What surprised me about Shaquille during our early days in Los Angeles was how frustrated he got,” said former Lakers GM Jerry West. “He was not fun to be around. The shortcomings of our team and his teammates made him angry because he knew he was going to be judged on how much we won.”



    How angry?



    Just months before Jackson arrived, O’Neal had slapped Bryant during a pickup game at the Laker practice facility.


    “It would not be forgotten,” former Laker guard Derek Fisher said of the incident.



    When Jackson and his coaching staff began work in Los Angeles, they were caught off guard by O’Neal’s level of animosity toward Bryant.



    There was a lot of hatred in his heart,” Tex Winter said of O’Neal. “he would speak his mind in our team meetings. He was saying really hateful things. Kobe just took it and kept going.


    Having witnessed the unfolding behind-the-scenes drama over five years, Lakers owner Jerry Buss [told Coach Phil Jackson] his services would no longer be needed.



    Stunned, Jackson abruptly changed his approach with Bryant. Suddenly, the coach began trying to have a relationship with Bryant, Winter said. And Bryant responded in kind.



    But it was too late,” Winter said.



    Buss had made up his mind. Jackson had to go. And the owner had no desire to meet O’Neal’s demands for a lengthy extension on his $30 million plus a year contract.

    As he was cleaning out his office, a jilted Jackson did his best to portray Bryant as the villain in the breakup of the team, and soon that perception became the reality, simply because so many people believed it. Jackson made sure of it, phoning reporters as he drove from Los Angeles to his summer home in Montana.

    He dialed up columnists and radio talk shows to offer his version of events. Sports columnists everywhere who had no idea why the Lakers had fallen apart simply began reporting as fact that Bryant had schemed to make it happen.

    Despite the blame game Jackson was playing so deftly, he would later admit the truth. Despite all his success in Los Angeles, he had failed in his handling of Bryant. And that was one of several factors in the breakup of a very successful team. “in the final analysis, it’s the coach’s responsibility to manage the team in the proper manner and not have those things happen,” Winter said.



    It was simply a huge mistake to not keep Bryant in the loop, Winter said. “I think Phil realizes that now.”


    Jackson and Bryant finally had that first serious meeting at Laker offices in July. According to Winter, Bryant wasted no time in making his feelings known about certain things Jackson had done to him. It was first step in the two trying to re-establish some sort of trust.

    Jackson had endured a similar meeting several years earlier. In 1991,Jackson had served as an anonymous source for Sam Smith’s explosive expose, The Jordan Rules, a book that infuriated both Bulls GM Jerry Krause and Jordan for its unflattering portrait of them.


    sometimes you need mass and total chaos in order to succeed...

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    The Show Must Go On TE's Avatar
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    Oh god, what a terrible thread.

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    Neal with it. Tp9gospursgo's Avatar
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    uhhhhhhhhh

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    $200 cash 4>0rings's Avatar
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    Just like when that hater Shaq slapped the outta Kobe....When is this gonna happen...them s ain't nothing like Kobe....Kobe wanted to win and be the man so ing bad he trampled all over Shaq's legacy and was more determined to make Shaq pay the price for slapping him...now I don't like airing dirty family laundry but I will do it this one time to make a point....Wade and Bron gonna have to square off before they begin to understand how to win...but then again them s not wired like Kobe was....Shaq jealous of Penny...Shaq jealous of Kobe....sometimes it just comes to this....

    Dirty Family Laundry: (there's an MJ connection as well)

    “What surprised me about Shaquille during our early days in Los Angeles was how frustrated he got,” said former Lakers GM Jerry West. “He was not fun to be around. The shortcomings of our team and his teammates made him angry because he knew he was going to be judged on how much we won.”



    How angry?



    Just months before Jackson arrived, O’Neal had slapped Bryant during a pickup game at the Laker practice facility.


    “It would not be forgotten,” former Laker guard Derek Fisher said of the incident.



    When Jackson and his coaching staff began work in Los Angeles, they were caught off guard by O’Neal’s level of animosity toward Bryant.



    There was a lot of hatred in his heart,” Tex Winter said of O’Neal. “he would speak his mind in our team meetings. He was saying really hateful things. Kobe just took it and kept going.


    Having witnessed the unfolding behind-the-scenes drama over five years, Lakers owner Jerry Buss [told Coach Phil Jackson] his services would no longer be needed.



    Stunned, Jackson abruptly changed his approach with Bryant. Suddenly, the coach began trying to have a relationship with Bryant, Winter said. And Bryant responded in kind.



    But it was too late,” Winter said.



    Buss had made up his mind. Jackson had to go. And the owner had no desire to meet O’Neal’s demands for a lengthy extension on his $30 million plus a year contract.

    As he was cleaning out his office, a jilted Jackson did his best to portray Bryant as the villain in the breakup of the team, and soon that perception became the reality, simply because so many people believed it. Jackson made sure of it, phoning reporters as he drove from Los Angeles to his summer home in Montana.

    He dialed up columnists and radio talk shows to offer his version of events. Sports columnists everywhere who had no idea why the Lakers had fallen apart simply began reporting as fact that Bryant had schemed to make it happen.

    Despite the blame game Jackson was playing so deftly, he would later admit the truth. Despite all his success in Los Angeles, he had failed in his handling of Bryant. And that was one of several factors in the breakup of a very successful team. “in the final analysis, it’s the coach’s responsibility to manage the team in the proper manner and not have those things happen,” Winter said.



    It was simply a huge mistake to not keep Bryant in the loop, Winter said. “I think Phil realizes that now.”


    Jackson and Bryant finally had that first serious meeting at Laker offices in July. According to Winter, Bryant wasted no time in making his feelings known about certain things Jackson had done to him. It was first step in the two trying to re-establish some sort of trust.

    Jackson had endured a similar meeting several years earlier. In 1991,Jackson had served as an anonymous source for Sam Smith’s explosive expose, The Jordan Rules, a book that infuriated both Bulls GM Jerry Krause and Jordan for its unflattering portrait of them.


    sometimes you need mass and total chaos in order to succeed...

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    1 guy 1 jar>Dos equis man
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    Long, Dark Blues redzero's Avatar
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    3 ty threads in one day. Koolaid_Man is on a roll!

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    that shit i don't like rayjayjohnson's Avatar
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    Thread fails hard

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    tl;dr

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    Ur a fkn wanker Venti Quattro's Avatar
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    boring is a quality
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    It's time for you to stick a in it and shut the up
    this

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    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
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    The pinking can't happen fast enough...

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    <><><><><><> ALVAREZ6's Avatar
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    koolaid is a great poster

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    Believe. Roger Freemason Jr.'s Avatar
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    Koolaid getting eaten alive in this thread tbh.

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    Veteran cobbler's Avatar
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    Haters hating the truth...

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    boring is a quality
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    Haters hating the truth...
    child please

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    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
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    Haters hating the truth...
    You actually read all that?

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    Cool

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    one of the worst threads.....

  19. #19
    Death. Taxes. #21.
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    GNSF Couldn't resist saying:
    Terrible Thread

  20. #20
    Veteran cobbler's Avatar
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    You actually read all that?
    Didn't have to. Came from a book led "The Show" by Roland Lazenby. Try picking one up sometime. Learn a few things...

    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...books&n=507846

  21. #21
    Believe.
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    Yeah, Bryant's a real angel, and a real team guy.

    No one in the history of sport deserves less than this tool of a human being.

  22. #22
    O & 44!!! Now, go back &
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    ....and yet, it's:::

    Kobe: 5

    Duncan: 4

    Just shows ta go ya.

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    ....and yet, it's:::

    Kobe: 5

    Duncan: 4

    Just shows ta go ya.
    Rings are a team accomplishment got. Are you really gonna make spurfan have to own you with league and finals mvp awards again?

  24. #24
    Straya AussieFanKurt's Avatar
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    ....and yet, it's:::

    Kobe: 5

    Duncan: 4

    Just shows ta go ya.
    If Duncan wins another then what will you use as ammo?

  25. #25
    O & 44!!! Now, go back &
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    Rings are a team accomplishment got. Are you really gonna make spurfan have to own you with league and finals mvp awards again?
    Pish, posh. When it was:::

    Duncan: 4

    Kobe: 3

    it wasn't a team accomplishment.

    Uh, and daddy-O, it ain't a team accomplishment now.

    Let us proceed...

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