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    why past performance is not indicative of what we should expect from Bonner in the playoffs (Popovich apologists, this goes for you too)? Across the board the guy is absolutely horrible. Probably one of the worst players in the entire league in the playoffs. So, explain yourselves.

    Career playoffs:
    26 games
    28 field goals, 77 fga, .364 fg%
    14 3pt fgm, 44 3pt fga, .318 3p%
    6 ast, 12 turnovers
    2.9 pts/gm
    2.0 reb/gm

    PER: 6.9
    Off rtg: 94
    Def rtg: 111
    Win shares/48: 0.011

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    Bonner is the Anti-Horry

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    Bonner can't produce in the playoffs because he rarely gets wide open shots from 3 in the playoffs. Just look at nearly ALL of his 3 pointers this season/last season/the season before that, they're all wide open with nobody contesting his shot, that isn't the case in the playoffs though.

    Out of all of Bonner's 3pt shots this season I think he's hit maybe 10-15 that were actually contested.

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    Bonner is starting to develop a bad habit of dribbling around like a dumbass whenever someone closes out hard on him. Bonner needs to be more assertive and quit over thinking what he should do.

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    Popovich apologists too? Are you re ed? 4 les? You're ing spoiled, dude..seriously.

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    Popovich apologists too? Are you re ed? 4 les? You're ing spoiled, dude..seriously.
    Bonner doesn't put himself into the game, dummy.

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    Bonner doesn't put himself into the game, dummy.
    Pop knows what he's doing, dummy...you can't expect perfection...mistakes are made..but I wouldn't change what Pop has done for anything...look in the rafters.

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    Pop knows what he's doing, dummy...you can't expect perfection...mistakes are made..but I wouldn't change what Pop has done for anything...look in the rafters.
    Unfortunately, Popovich has gone far away from what made the Spurs teams successful in the past. This Popovich does not resemble in any way the guy that coached the Spurs to four championships.

    The "spread-the-floor" gimmick is stupid and the league has already figured it out. Matt Bonner is supposed to be an analog to Robert Horry? What insanity.

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    Unfortunately, Popovich has gone far away from what made the Spurs teams successful in the past. This Popovich does not resemble in any way the guy that coached the Spurs to four championships.

    The "spread-the-floor" gimmick is stupid and the league has already figured it out. Matt Bonner is supposed to be an analog to Robert Horry? What insanity.
    No one can do what Horry did...all I know is you're bashing Pop for his playoff decisions and we haven't hit the playoffs this year yet. He changed his philosophy on getting a strong start out of the gate...who knows what he'll do..I see what you're saying..I thought you were one of those people who just bash Pop for no reason with no thought of what he's done.

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    Surprised his rebounding numbers are so high for the playoffs... I expected closer to the 0.5-1.0 range.

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    Sample size.

    I could probably find a 28 game sample from Tim Duncan/Kobe Bryant/Lebron/Wade over their career in the REGULAR season and find really really terrible averages too.

    I could probably name 10 stars in different sports who were considered huge chokers before they won a le, and Bonner ain't even close to being a star.

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    I could probably name 10 stars in different sports who were considered huge chokers before they won a le, and Bonner ain't even close to being a star.
    Bonner has a le.

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    Unfortunately, Popovich has gone far away from what made the Spurs teams successful in the past. This Popovich does not resemble in any way the guy that coached the Spurs to four championships.

    The "spread-the-floor" gimmick is stupid and the league has already figured it out. Matt Bonner is supposed to be an analog to Robert Horry? What insanity.
    Thats true that Pop has gone away from his defensive ways, but that due to the current roster. This roster is stronger offensively right now. Theres not alot of Bruce Bowens out there to sign, nor alot of defensive big men. Maybe Splitter can be that defensive big, paired next to Timmy, but thats not gonna happen till next year. As Pop likes to say, you need to "get over yourself" and just enjoy the Spurs run this year.

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    I don't buy the reason being that Bonner sees less open 3s..sure, he doesn't get as many, but he still gets a decent amount of wide open 3s..he's just a mental pussy, and I say that as a fan of his..

    I have a soft spot for Bonner, so I'd always like to see him get a shot, but historically speaking, Bonner is going to suck in the playoffs, so if he struggles in the first 2 or so games in the 1st round, he needs to be out of the rotation..he's received more chances for redemption than any other Spurs role player that I can remember, including Bowen..

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    I don't buy the reason being that Bonner sees less open 3s..sure, he doesn't get as many, but he still gets a decent amount of wide open 3s..he's just a mental pussy, and I say that as a fan of his..

    I have a soft spot for Bonner, so I'd always like to see him get a shot, but historically speaking, Bonner is going to suck in the playoffs, so if he struggles in the first 2 or so games in the 1st round, he needs to be out of the rotation..he's received more chances for redemption than any other Spurs role player that I can remember, including Bowen..
    Exactly, this is the last playoffs i'm gonna have any hope of him actually shooting well..Sadly if he doesn't we've got another few years of this.

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    Bonner thread!

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    If I remember correctly, he actually showed some improvement in last year's playoffs over the year before. Maybe continued exposure to the higher intensity will desensitize him.

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    Thats true that Pop has gone away from his defensive ways, but that due to the current roster. This roster is stronger offensively right now. Theres not alot of Bruce Bowens out there to sign, nor alot of defensive big men. Maybe Splitter can be that defensive big, paired next to Timmy, but thats not gonna happen till next year. As Pop likes to say, you need to "get over yourself" and just enjoy the Spurs run this year.
    And who created the current roster? Who traded away Scola and re-signed Bonner to a 4 year contract? I don't care whose feelings were hurt - everyone needed to put that aside and do what's best for the team. I still don't understand how Scola couldn't work with Manu, TD and TP. Spurs would've been contending for championships w/Scola.

    Who didn't integrate Splitter this year? There have been lots of back-to-backs and games against bad teams when he could have rested Dice/TD. I'd prefer to enjoy the regular season less and have Splitter integrated for the playoffs.

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    Like I've always said...

    Regular season Bon Bon is a great asset to the team.

    Playoff Bon Bon has, until now, been useless.

    I really hope he sacks up this year!!!

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    Unfortunately, Popovich has gone far away from what made the Spurs teams successful in the past. This Popovich does not resemble in any way the guy that coached the Spurs to four championships.

    The "spread-the-floor" gimmick is stupid and the league has already figured it out. Matt Bonner is supposed to be an analog to Robert Horry? What insanity.
    There is no "figuring it out". Way to expose the fact that you're a novice fan. It's a pick your poison type scenario. Very few teams (maybe only the Lakers) are capable of guarding against Parker's/Ginobili's penetration and being able to close to the Spurs three-point shooters.

    If Bonner doesn't play, then Blair-Splitter would be the backup big duo. This is problematic because neither has any range whatsoever, so teams can give more help to stop penetration.

    As Harlem alluded to, Bonner deserves another chance, with the caveat that he get's the hook by no later than game four if he's shooting blanks in the first three two-three games. The sample size in the playoffs isn't significant enough to determine unequivocally that he can't shoot well in the playoffs.

    The guy is the best spot up three-point shooter in the league. There is value in that, especially at his position, which is why every contender prioritizes having a stretch-four. It can be particularly valuable against a team like the Lakers (to pull some of their length away from the basket and open up more space for Parker/Ginobili).

    I like his chances this time around, because he appears to be more confident this season.

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    Unfortunately, Popovich has gone far away from what made the Spurs teams successful in the past. This Popovich does not resemble in any way the guy that coached the Spurs to four championships.

    The "spread-the-floor" gimmick is stupid and the league has already figured it out. Matt Bonner is supposed to be an analog to Robert Horry? What insanity.
    , 56-13....

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    Bonner has a le.
    He was on the bench most of the time that last run, which is where he belongs then!

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    It can be particularly valuable against a team like the Lakers (to pull some of their length away from the basket and open up more space for Parker/Ginobili).
    Are you really this stupid? Really? Bonner is going to pull a Laker big man away from the basket?

    The thing with players like Bonner is, anyone can guard him. You could run Nate Robinson at him on the three point line and he'll try to put it on the floor. You actually think Andrew Bynum or Gasol is going to be guarding him on the three point line? You're a ing idiot.

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    are you really this stupid? Really? Bonner is going to pull a laker big man away from the basket?

    the thing with players like bonner is, anyone can guard him. You could run nate robinson at him on the three point line and he'll try to put it on the floor. You actually think andrew bynum or gasol is going to be guarding him on the three point line? You're a ing idiot.
    +1

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    Not only that, smart coaches like Phil Jackson will dare you to beat his team with Bonner taking the majority of the shots instead of allowing Tony and Manu to cruise through the paint. How many games of a 7 game series you think Bonner is going to win for you? He's not even a double digit scorer as it is...

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