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It's hard to side with the owners when most of them perpetuated the current problem.
The lockout is pretty much here. Who do you side with?
It's hard to side with the owners when most of them perpetuated the current problem.
I was just about to create this post, shows you how ing slow the NBA offseason chatter is if me and Nono post the same ...
Wouldn't this be addressing such problem by putting hard limits on what the owners themselves can do?
This. I know teams are losing money, and I know teams can't afford the current NBA's soft salary cap rules with MLEs and stuff, but when teams like the Bucks have no hesitation using MLEs and going over the cap, it's hard to side with the owners.
The owners are the dumb s giving out massive contracts to players like Drew Gooden and Hedo, them
Although making contracts partially-guaranteed would do wonders for the game imo, if players knew they could be cut for being Eddy Curry then they'd be busting their asses a lot more out there
I more or less side with the players on this one. The owners are looking for a bailout after being severely irresponsible with their money and handing ludicrous contracts to POS players like Luke Walton. They deserve to pay for their mistakes.
That being said, I think both sides will have to give a little for a settlement to be reached. The players will give in eventually no matter what the situation looks like because in the end they need the money more than the owners do.
If the owners pull off a miracle and get a $45,000,000 salary cap, there's no way the NBA couldn't switch to a partially guaranteed salary system. There's no way teams could survive with all the $5,000,000 deadweight contracts floating around now if there was a 45M cap.
"yeah NBA players make alot but we spend alot" Patrick Ewing
I wish I was a fly on the wall during these negotiations, the owners are gonna look so stupid
Sarver and his group of brash morons who have no business owning a team: "there shouldn't be an MLE
The players' union: "Yeah, you hate the MLE sooooooooooo much you just gave Channing Frye a $30,000,000 MLE contract
The idea of the hard cap isn't really that outrageous (the NFL has it), what makes it dumb is the people proposing it are owners who have taken full advantage of a soft cap in the past and have shown no ability to spend responsibly.
I also wonder what Sterling is doing in these meetings? I can't think of a biggest leech in the league than him. He turns every player and picks into some sort of cash.
The only thing I can imagine is that he's having an auction among fellow owners to see who's going to give him more picks and cash for Blake Griffin.
You deserve to lose money if you throw huge contracts at Drew Gooden, John Salmons, and trade for Corey Maggette. And pay Michael Redd $18 million on top of that? Even minus injuries he was never worth anything close to that. Then there is drafting Yi.
Solid post.
I don't know the financials of the teams but if many of the teams are losing money then something needs to change. Blame the owners if you want but they have to do something to try to be compe ive in the NBA.
, when you put it like that...
Feel bad for them, they looked good going into the 2010 playoffs and looked like they could fight for a middle seed the next year but Salmons regressed and Drew Gooden is Drew Gooden
Non-guaranteed contracts are a joke. If my deal isn't guaranteed, no way I'm diving for loose balls if I'm a talented player. No way I'm relentlessly attacking the lane. I'll be Vince Carter and jack up jump shots until my contract year. Why should I risk my career knowing my team will just cut me and leave me with nothing should I tear an ACL?
There are various teams that are well managed, are good in basketball, sometimes own the facility or are in big market and still lose money, it seems that the system is broken and the players earn too much for most of the teams.
However, despite losing money, the teams usually became more valuable with time. The Wizards were sold for +$500M. So if an owner keep the team, there are chances to recover the investment and make good money at the end of the road.
How many ACL injuries did the NBA have this year?
If Vince Carter had a non-guaranteed contract he would have been force to sign a more reasonable contract years ago. Also giving him much more incentive to practice and workout to stay at the top of his game. Making him more deserving of his contract and improving the quality of the game.
If players stop attacking their value decreases and with that so will their contracts. A great player would turn into just a really good role player if he didn't play hard. Meanwhile really good role players would play as hard as possible to get a bigger slice of the pie. Injuries overall do not happen often enough to prevent players from playing hard. The incentive of a player contract changing at the end of the year would IMO increase the quality of basketball on the court.
This
110 M$ for Rashard Lewis says it all
I side with the god damn fans. And screw the current system. Ideally if a player starts to turn into then his paycheck and job security should reflect it tbh. That should go both ways as well; if a player starts to emerge then they should earn more. Also something has to be done with bag owners like Sterling but good luck on that.
It seems like the owners are going to win this battle the only questions are by how much and when. Owners can take the damage to see significant changes go their way, players will likely cave in before the season gets cancelled, and the fans lose the longer it goes on.
Last edited by Cane; 06-30-2011 at 02:41 AM.
How many of you would if a player blows up and decides to hold out when signed to a cheap contract? I would have loved to have seen the reaction if Tony Parker held out after being paid $850,000 to be the starting point guard on a championship team. Or if Manu Ginobili decided the $1.4 million he was getting in 04 wasn't anything close to his market value after his clutch play off the bench in winning the le the previous playoffs. What's the point of even having a contract if it's non-binding?
If you don't want teams taking risk with longterm deals, just get rid of multi-year contracts period, and leave free agency alone so a player is free to go to whoever values him most for the next season. None of this franchise player tag to inhibit player movement.
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