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    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...ll_595022.html

    The Obama campaign sent out an email today asking supporters to urge Congress to at least vote on the president’s jobs almost immediately after Democratic majority leader Harry Reid blocked a vote on the bill in the Senate.

    On the Senate floor today, Republican leader Mitch McConnell asked for unanimous consent to proceed on voting on the bill. Reid, who has struggled to find enough votes for the bill in the Democratic caucus, objected to the motion and killed the opportunity for a vote.

    About ten minutes later, Jim Messina, Obama’s 2012 campaign manager, emailed this message to supporters:

    President Obama is in Dallas today urging Americans who support the American Jobs Act to demand that Congress pass it already.

    Though it's been nearly a month since he laid out this plan, House Republicans haven't acted to pass it. And House Majority Leader Eric Cantor is out there actually bragging that they won't even put the jobs package up for a vote -- ever.

    It's not clear which part of the bill they now object to: building roads, hiring teachers, getting veterans back to work. They're willing to block the American Jobs Act -- and they think you won't do anything about it.

    But here's something you can do: Find Republican members of Congress on Twitter, call them out, and demand they pass this bill.

    So will the Obama campaign be asking its supporters to "call out" Harry Reid and "demand" he and Senate Democrats pass the bill?

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    Obama just doesn't get it. His boys in congress don't want to vote for raising taxes in an election year.

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    the vote was killed, not the bill.

    and yes, the Repugs will kill it, Cantor said it's totally dead.

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    The Repugs have denied, limited, compromised any successes that the Dems propose.

    The Repugs don't GAS about how many Human-Americans suffer for how long, and will blame it all on the Dems.

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    Dumbass. Reid is the DEMOCRATIC MAJORITY leader in the SENATE. He doesn't have the votes to pass the bill.

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    the vote was killed, not the bill.

    and yes, the Repugs will kill it, Cantor said it's totally dead.
    Perhaps, but gReid killing it is gold.
    Last edited by Wild Cobra; 10-05-2011 at 02:59 AM.

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    Reid doesn't have a super majority, which he needs to overcome the Repug filibuster.

    The Dems have never had a super-majority since Barry was elected.

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    Perhaps, but gReid killing is is gold.
    Comedy gold.

    Is there even a bill yet?

    Does anyone know the bill number?

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    CC a dupe for McConnell's partisan politics.

    http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2...ll.php?ref=fpb


    Mitch McConnell just pulled a made-for-headlines trick on the Senate floor, challenging Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) to allow an immediate vote on President Obama's jobs bill -- not as a stand-alone measure, but as an amendment to the China currency legislation the Senate is currently debating.

    Obama's been demanding that Congress pass his jobs bill day in and day out for weeks, so the tactic had an obvious allure. It wasn't done in the spirit of debating the jobs bill, or even giving it an up or down vote. It was to generate headlines like, "McConnell demands vote on Obama jobs bill" or "Reid blocks vote on Obama jobs bill." Or if Reid had allowed the vote, the headlines could've read "Dems Join Republicans In Rebuffing Obama Jobs Bill."

    Pretty clever. But it's not the whole story.

    Reid's plan is to set the jobs bill up for a test vote later in October, but as a stand-alone proposition. That vote, if successful, would allow the Senate to debate the legislation -- argue about it on the floor, offer amendments. But it will likely run headlong into a GOP-led filibuster. If it does, Dems will be able to claim Republicans won't even allow debate on the jobs package, and try to win the battle for public perception.

    McConnell tried to short circuit that plan Tuesday by offering the Senate a chance to tack Obama's jobs bill, unamended, on to the China currency legislation -- a bill that already enjoys broad bipartisan support. As McConnell predicted, Reid objected. And he got his headlines.

    But that's not the end of the story. Or rather, the story's not in those headlines. Reid also offered McConnell several options, including to delay debate on the China currency bill and hold the first test vote on the jobs bill today, but as a stand-alone measure. But of course, that woudn't have given McConnell what he wanted -- either to have Reid obstruct Obama's jobs bill, or for Obama's jobs bill to fail on a bipartisan basis. So he wasn't exactly keen on it. Thus, no vote for Obama's jobs bill today, unless it's on McConnell's terms.

    This, I think it's safe to say, is why Congress' approval rating is at a record high.

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    Whether this bill passes or not Obama has already won. It was all a political maneuver anyway..now Obama has something to run on besides "stupid tea-baggers' and wing-nuts can be painted as anti-job-creation...

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    Whether this bill passes or not Obama has already won. It was all a political maneuver anyway..now Obama has something to run on besides "stupid tea-baggers' and wing-nuts can be painted as anti-job-creation...
    That's awesome, I'm sure the unemployed and underemployed in this country can't wait to reap the benefits of clever political maneuvers.

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    That's awesome, I'm sure the unemployed and underemployed in this country can't wait to reap the benefits of clever political maneuvers.
    Yep. It's a sad state of affairs. I personally think Obama attempted good faith negotiations but ultimately resorted to partisain politics when he realized there was going to be no real negotiations with these republicans. They're not interested in moving the country forward, they're interested in defeating Obama at any cost.

    He really should have known that coming in. Hillary would have

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    That's awesome, I'm sure the unemployed and underemployed in this country can't wait to reap the benefits of clever political maneuvers.


    Had this bill passed it would help the poor, but with the do-nothing congress this bill had little chance of success....so why shouldn't the Democrats use it against the GOP?

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    Reid won't let it go to the floor for a vote because he doesn't have enough votes. He doesn't have enough votes because there are Democrats that won't even vote for this piece of crap.

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    You guys really do get excited about parliamentary procedures.

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    "piece of crap"

    Any jobs or economy stimulating proposals from the Repugs? (other than cut taxes on the wealthy and corps and cost-shift to the lower 95%?)

    or do Americans just sit on their humongous fat asses and hope Wall St's mocking champagne drinkers and the sacred free market work its magic?

    If you had a magic wand, what would you propose, Yoni, you supreme economic/political guru?

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    If you had a magic wand, what would you propose, Yoni, you supreme economic/political guru?
    Lower taxes, reduce the job killing regulation, yada, yada, yada. There are no new ideas from these right-wing ideologues.

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    You guys really do get excited about parliamentary procedures.

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    Can I get a nonbinding resolution up in this ?

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    @ the people in here that think the Federal government borrowing and pissing off another half billion dollars is really going to help the economy.

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    @ the people in here that think the Federal government borrowing and pissing off another half billion dollars is really going to help the economy.
    What's your proposal? Let me guess, lower taxes and less regulation.

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    What's your proposal? Let me guess, lower taxes and less regulation.
    This crash was caused by too much debt, both federal, state, and personal that led to an over-consumption bubble in the economy. When the bubble burst the party ended. People in the private sector (both individuals and companies) get it and have been paying off debt like crazy (thus not spending money to stimulate the economy). States are doing the same thing and making the hard choices to live within their means. When debt in ALL sectors of the economy (public and private) finally gets back in balance the economy will recover. This is the bulge in the snake and it just takes time. Pissing off more borrowed money at the fed level will just aggravates the problem, not solve it.

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    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...ll_595022.html

    The Obama campaign sent out an email today asking supporters to urge Congress to at least vote on the president’s jobs almost immediately after Democratic majority leader Harry Reid blocked a vote on the bill in the Senate.

    On the Senate floor today, Republican leader Mitch McConnell asked for unanimous consent to proceed on voting on the bill. Reid, who has struggled to find enough votes for the bill in the Democratic caucus, objected to the motion and killed the opportunity for a vote.

    About ten minutes later, Jim Messina, Obama’s 2012 campaign manager, emailed this message to supporters:

    President Obama is in Dallas today urging Americans who support the American Jobs Act to demand that Congress pass it already.

    Though it's been nearly a month since he laid out this plan, House Republicans haven't acted to pass it. And House Majority Leader Eric Cantor is out there actually bragging that they won't even put the jobs package up for a vote -- ever.

    It's not clear which part of the bill they now object to: building roads, hiring teachers, getting veterans back to work. They're willing to block the American Jobs Act -- and they think you won't do anything about it.

    But here's something you can do: Find Republican members of Congress on Twitter, call them out, and demand they pass this bill.

    So will the Obama campaign be asking its supporters to "call out" Harry Reid and "demand" he and Senate Democrats pass the bill?
    gullible..lol

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    This crash was caused by too much debt, both federal, state, and personal that led to an over-consumption bubble in the economy. When the bubble burst the party ended. People in the private sector (both individuals and companies) get it and have been paying off debt like crazy (thus not spending money to stimulate the economy). States are doing the same thing and making the hard choices to live within their means. When debt in ALL sectors of the economy (public and private) finally gets back in balance the economy will recover. This is the bulge in the snake and it just takes time. Pissing off more borrowed money at the fed level will just aggravates the problem, not solve it.
    You have to account for fiscal drag. There is nothing wrong with short term spending to prop up the economy as long as we have a long term plan to reduce the debt. Now would be the best time to invest in infrastructure. Labor/Material is cheap. Why not now? The government is responsible for infrastructure, no?

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    As opposed to GGA just being plain ing stupid lol.

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