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    Suns owner Sarver says his hard-liner rep during labor woes was unfair
    32 commentsby Paul Coro - Dec. 13, 2011 09:54 PM
    The Arizona Republic
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    For months during the NBA lockout, Suns Managing Partner Robert Sarver's defense mechanism was on lockdown.

    Sarver, part of the NBA's labor-relations committee, squirmed as he was portrayed as a hard-liner willing to sacrifice a season in collective-bargaining-agreement negotiations.

    Now free to speak -- and swing -- Sarver said his actions were quite to the contrary during 50 committee meetings over the past two years.

    "I was consistently at the forefront of trying to get a deal done, knowing it was important for our fans to see NBA basketball again this season," Sarver said.
    DSF's NOTE:

    Sarver disputes how reports, some coming from anonymous players-union sources, painted him but sees how a divide could have been formed during negotiating. He said his approach and desires in owners meetings did not always match what he said in negotiations because he was then representing the entire ownership group and not just his viewpoint.

    "He's very honest and direct," NBA Commissioner David Stern said of Sarver. "I'm not sure I'd nominate him for the diplomatic corps, but I would want him with me on anything important, as far as anything with business, directives, integrity or creativeness."

    Stern said Sarver always advocated compromise and that his banking background helped the league analyze the cost of a lost season against a shortened one. Stern said Sarver's drive for compromise was "opposite" of public perception.

    "Early on, he articulated the notion there is a huge gap between the two sides and how we could minimize that," Stern said.

    Sarver's reputation became a concern for the Suns brass, which has cleared salary-cap space for July 2012 to make a run at top free agents. The class could include Dwight Howard, Chris Paul and Deron Williams.

    "I was concerned, and that was probably the toughest part about not being able to get the record straight," Sarver said. "It's important that Phoenix is viewed as a place players want to come to."

    The attacks became more personal in October when his former star, Amar'e Stoudemire, told Newsday that Sarver was "probably the main guy that's pushing for this lockout."

    "To know Amar'e is to know you have to take half of what he says with a grain of salt," Sarver said. "You can't put a lot of credibility in that. I think it was more out of the fact that he still misses playing in Phoenix. He seemed to be a little frustrated."
    DSF'S NOTE: Yeah, you said the same thing about Joe Johnson. He just still wants to be in Phoenix so bad despite the fact that your team missed the playoffs, his made the playoffs, he's in the biggest NBA market and he got 40 million bucks more in guaranteed money than you were offering.


    Sarver said the compromise did not satisfy all of the goals for either side. He said that the owners' stated push for compe ive balance was aided by raising minimum team payrolls, ins uting a more punitive luxury tax starting in 2013-14 and improving the revenue-sharing model, "although time will tell."

    During Sarver's ownership tenure since 2004, he said his mid-market franchise has ranked 12th in revenue and been among the top 10 payrolls.

    "We do compete specifically in our division with the Los Angeles Lakers, so if the stiffer luxury tax at the higher levels does become effective, then that will help the Phoenix Suns," Sarver said.

    "I see a renewed commitment by myself and our ownership team to build on our success and support a championship culture. As an owner, you evolve. There are things looking back -- transactions, deals -- that you'd like to change. The important thing is I learned from previous mistakes."


    Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns...#ixzz1gXCCPQay

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    wow I hadn't read what Sarver said about Amare missing Phoenix. Sarver STILL thinks he was 100% right to be cheap with Amare and even worse thinks his decision was an obvious one.

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    The more Sarver opens his mouth, the more problem he brings into the organization.
    I love the Suns so Sarver should start simmering down if he wants to lure agents to consider his small market team and it's already hard to lure in agents/players to your small market team when everyone knows the team's owner is a banker who's true intention is to profit.

    Even Nash is starting to get pissed at him and you dont want Nash pissed because he is the only attraction you have for Phoenix...well, Nash and the awesome medical and training room staff.

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    wow I hadn't read what Sarver said about Amare missing Phoenix. Sarver STILL thinks he was 100% right to be cheap with Amare and even worse thinks his decision was an obvious one.
    You think 5 yr/100 mil is fair price for Amare after those injuries? We'll see about that 2 years from now with 2 still on the contract...

    But yeah, Sarver's a

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    I think it's a fair price for amare. Not just for basketball reasons but also to keep the fans interested in Suns basketball.
    The pick and roll with nash and amare is unstoppable and opens up their teammates.

    - Remember when free agents always keep the suns in their list during the ssol era...yeah, that will never happen again if Sarver keeps on being a cheap owner.

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    Also - there's nothing wrong with not giving an injured star 100 mil contract imho...but what did that re do with the 20 mil he saved? Signed Hedo,Childress and Warrick

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    Disgusting.

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    You think 5 yr/100 mil is fair price for Amare after those injuries? We'll see about that 2 years from now with 2 still on the contract...

    But yeah, Sarver's a
    Seeing that letting Amare leave caused the Suns to go from the conference finals to the lottery, I'd not only say it was a stupid decision to let Amare leave, I'd say gray named Spurs fans like yourself who even remotely agree with his decision to let Amare leave are extremely re ed.

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    Since when is Phoenix a mid-market? It's the fifth-largest metropolitan population in the United States.

    I hate Sarver so much.

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    Seeing that letting Amare leave caused the Suns to go from the conference finals to the lottery, I'd not only say it was a stupid decision to let Amare leave, I'd say gray named Spurs fans like yourself who even remotely agree with his decision to let Amare leave are extremely re ed.
    Perhaps you should designate a moniker to him, D. Something like The Prediction. Perhaps something to do with re ation, angel-pie.

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    Since when is Phoenix a mid-market? It's the fifth-largest metropolitan population in the United States.

    I hate Sarver so much.
    Though he's only responsible for the light end of O & 43.

    And he was right about Amare. "back spasms?" C'mon, that's pussy. It's mental, it's for slip & fall & accident injury lawyers. Amare already got his $.

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    Seeing that letting Amare leave caused the Suns to go from the conference finals to the lottery, I'd not only say it was a stupid decision to let Amare leave, I'd say gray named Spurs fans like yourself who even remotely agree with his decision to let Amare leave are extremely re ed.

    got please! We'll talk about this signing in two years...or maybe even sooner. Back spasm, microfracture, eye problems, 100 mil contract. that and you.

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    Though he's only responsible for the light end of O & 43.

    And he was right about Amare. "back spasms?" C'mon, that's pussy. It's mental, it's for slip & fall & accident injury lawyers. Amare already got his $.
    My hate long supersedes runnin' Amare off.

    Thanks to Sarver, you'll get to have "0-&" on your tombstone, I'm certain of it. No way they win a damn thing with him at the helm. They had their shots under Sarver. It's all downhill from here.

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    How many games did Amare miss last year?

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    Why are people not ok with keeping Amare because of his eyes and knees but ok with Nash staying with his chronic back pain and recent groin problems?

    Well, the deed is done. Suns have no one who can dominate the ball, they gave away their draft picks for nothing (could've gotten Rondo and Deng), cutting costs by trading serviceable players like Thomas, letting GM kerr go and now wasting away Nash and Hill's years by not trading them away or supplementing them with other talents.

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    How many games did Amare miss last year?
    The last 4 in-a-row.

    tee, hee.

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    F**K BOBBY SAVER.

    That is all.

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    Here we go...

    Stoudemire May Rest Some Games Due To Condensed Schedule

    Amar’e Stoudemire even admitted on Wednesday that he could envision a scenario in which he sits out certain games for the Knicks at various points of the season to preserve his troublesome knees for the playoffs.
    “Yeah, you never know depending on how these games go,” Stoudemire said following Wednesday’s practice in Greenburgh. “It may be smart to take a recovery day depending on who we’re playing. But we have to wait and see.”
    The decision by the league to play a lockout-shortened 66-game slate from Dec. 25 to April 26 could be detrimental to many veteran players, including Kevin Garnett, Kobe Bryant and Stoudemire, who have all had knee issues in recent years.

    “That’s never a good thing as far as the players because we’ll be playing three games back-to-back, which is something I’ve never done before,” Stoudemire said. “And six, seven games in eight nights. It’s definitely hard on the body. You have to be smart about playing time and recovering from those games.”

    Per the nydailynews

    And that's with 4 years and $83.3 mil remaining on the contract.

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    ^What a pussy.

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