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Just starting this because I figured we'll keep everything in one place (couple of Argie posters here + Other NT fans with the lol Argentina + 34/0 smack
First friendly today against Venezuela in India, ARG wins 1-0 (Otamendi). Played like .
Team was:
Romero
Zabaleta Demichelis Otamendi Rojo
Lucho González Mascherano Ricky Alvarez
Messi Higuaín Di María
Basically, the back 4 is still a disaster. Ricky Alvarez (Inter) made his debut, and he sucked.
This team is still not using the wings. Di Maria should be doing that, but he instead heads to the middle (and ballhogs as usual). Zabaleta rarely went, but then he isn't that good of a back and forth player. Rojo was passive (as usual, IMO, he's no NT material).
Messi, as usual, was the best player on the team.
lol Demichelis back in the NT
smh
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Lucho? He's awful right now with marseille. He sucked all year long too.
Todays defense against Nigeria:
Zabaleta Burdiso Demichelis Otamendi Rojo
What a meh game this one was.
Seems like we've been playing Nigeria every 3 games...what's this make, 3-4 times in the past year or so?
Argentina vs Brazil tomorrow night.
Game will be played with players playing in the domestic leagues (so Argentina and Brazil)
lol Neymar
lol Ronaldinho
lol Ganso
lol Damiao
lol we're going to get ed
Team for Argentina will be:
Orion
Pillud Cellay Dominguez Desabato Papa
Fernandez Canteros Zapata
Martinez Boselli
or:
Orion
Cellay Dominguez Desabato Papa
Fernandez Canteros Zapata Chavez
Martinez Boselli
Last edited by DAF86; 09-13-2011 at 07:21 PM.
who?
ed
Sorry for the temporary threadjack, but can't wait for Neymar to come to EPL and showboat then have John Terry break his leg, then his wife.
Argentina vs Brazil today?
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/preview...332638?cc=5901
Yeah, friendly, but playing with players from both local leagues. No Euros.
Got schooled 2-0. This is what happens when you sell your talent when they're 8 years old.
Everybody playing in the local league sucks and/or is Colombian/Bolivian.
lol 34-1
How much they charged for the tickets? Looks dead out there.
Good win, but that defense is the same as always. It's going to come crumbling down any minute.
lol Otamendi
lol Burdisso
lol Demichelis
argentina
Different coach, same team, same problems... I'll vent in a bit
Back to front:
Andujar: He did good. If not for him, it's easily 3-0. He should look even better with an actual defense in front of him.
Burdisso, Demichelis: Just ask them to retire so they can't be picked anymore. Slow, poor timing, poorly organized. Inspire no confidence. Rivals run at them.
Otamendi: Poor ball control the little he had it, and it almost cost us. Otherwise, I thought he was the best at the back.
Rojo, Zabaleta: These guys are just not NT caliber. I can't believe there's no other players to fill those roles. Rojo has been tried and tried and he just sucks. Even against Chile, that's where every attack for them went through. Zabaleta is more a midfield than a defender, but he's a very very poor man Dani Alves. These two positions require some major rework.
Mascherano: He defended ok, but he can't be the sole midfield defender AND the outlet where the team builds an offense. He keep getting the ball, dishing it to the sides, then back to him.
Sosa: Who is this guy? Why is he on my team? smh
Di Maria: So much talent, so little brain. If he's not getting into some mazy run he can't get out of, he's hitting a long ball which 1 in 25 times will actually get to the intended target. He just brings a lot of noise. Great player to play counter attack, where he has a lot of field to run, but otherwise, you get very little from him. His help getting back non-existent, as usual.
Ricky Alvarez: What is he supposed to play like? I mean, the guy looks like he has a clue, but when you give him the ball, he generates nothing.
Banegas: It didn't work before with this guy. Why is it going to start working now? He carries the ball like he thinks he's good. And that's part of the problem.
Messi-Higuain-Palacios: ??????? I mean, I can't even say anything about these guys, since they probably touched the ball like 7 times combined in 90 minutes. Nobody to create for them, and just nothing happening. Messi had a few chances he created himself, and that's basically all Argentina created today.
Basically, we're back at square one. When Argentina play teams that come out to play and give you room on attack, they can do damage. But against compact teams or teams that sag back and play counter, we just don't have a clue.
And lol @ Sabella firing the first excuse... "tired"
Rojo and Sosa, dudes that no one ing knows anywhere, shouldn't ever be considered for the NT. I don't get it. Obviously scrubs like Otamendi, Burdisso, and Demi need to play because Argentina has zero defenders. The future is not looking good for Argentina
How can a country with so many footballers not produce any relatively athletic defenders, you know, ones that can run over 5 mph? Demichelis is slower than I was at age 9. Put me in there and immediately the defense is stronger because I can at least get to the areas I'm supposed to cover.
Pastore should play. He can't be worse than Ricky Maravilla.
As far as the defenders, Micho is 31, Burdisso 29... Basically, they're going to be 34 and 32 by the time the World Cup rolls around.
Did Clemente die? Emiliano Insua? I can't think there's no better left back than Rojo...
Just start playing Pezzella, Pirez... the kids from the U19 played well on defense and they have personality too. I mean, if we're going to lose games against ing Venezuela might as well get some new blood out there.
If Zabaleta is going to play like that, start trying out other people, like Angeleri.
You know what's gonna happen? They're gonna call Freezelme and this is going to turn into a cabaret again like with Basile.
I don't get why Clemente Rodriguez isn't used...one thing Maradona did right last WC was bring him, and even play him. He was their best wing back, easily. He can control the ball and help out of offense, and has decent wheels, especially compared to the scrubs that have been playing ever since. It makes no sense to not play him when he is the exact opposite of what we have in the center...very slow, unathletic players with subpar ball control.
Pastore should definitely play, he's Argentina's best attacking mid by far. Give him more experience now with the other NT players and by the time next WC rolls around he should be pretty good.
I always revert to the same thing, but I think Mascherano needs to be used in the back just like he is at Barca. If you have more serviceable defensive-mids that can be used in the back, like Mascherano, it makes no sense to keep slow ass, incompetent defenders in the central defense simply because they are traditional defenders. You should maximize the total quality of players on the field and in this case Argentina has Cambiasso, Gago, Banega, and Mascherano who can all be used. Why not use Pastore, Gago, and Cambiasso in the midfield, with Mascherano in the back? Mascherano + Clemente would give them speed in the back that at least helps to diminish their constant vulnerability. The unheard of scrubs and Demi should never step foot on the field, period. They can't be expected to contribute anything ever, against any opponent. It's a complete waste. Shift some of the talent backwards if it's possible.
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