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Lakers burnin bridges, per the usual....
No one wants to deal with them; well, except the Logo...
https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/st...71109437870081
Sources briefed on talks say Lakers' reported S-and-T push for Nash blocked to date by Suns brass. Can't stomach dealing him to old rival
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Lakers burnin bridges, per the usual....
No one wants to deal with them; well, except the Logo...
Nash doesn't want to play with Kobe. No one does.
"Oh yeah, goin' to the Lakers, goin' to help fortify Kobe and help propagate the fallacy that Kobe is right there with Michael"
Fine by me, wasn't gonna make us le contenders and our defense would still suck at PG
Lakers defense already sucks at PG
LAL is the preferred destination of many players and the franchise is rich. If a team has something LAL wants, they will get talks on 9/10 times.
True. Nash would make Fisher's D look like ALL WORLD. And don't worry, killa. The Spurs have been getting the same blocking treatment from teams like Portland and Dallas for years now.
Players: yes. Other front offices preferring to trade with L.A? No...
Call it penis envy, jealousy, whatever. No opposing GM wants to be the next team to help propel the NBA's richest team back into contention, so they are scared to pull the trigger on any trade involving the Lakers.
That would be true if fans ran the teams
The trigger was already pulled when NO was sending us CP3 with the Rocket's help. If Stern didn't step in, we would see CP3 playing for LA team #1 instead of #2.
By your logic, the trade would never have even been discussed. Fact of the matter is, teams will deal with LA because LA has the resources to take ty contracts and offer good pieces.
We're talking about business here, not fantasy basketball teams.
NOH trade was being allowed by commish who once said ideal Finals was Lakers v Lakers. Seems to be it was owners who stepped in and blocked it, providing evidence for previous poster's point.
Lakers vs Lakers would be pretty damn interesting
Stern stepped in on behalf of the small market owners crying foul about the trade. Hence my point, GMs and owners don't want to help the Lakers.That would be true if fans ran the teams
The trigger was already pulled when NO was sending us CP3 with the Rocket's help. If Stern didn't step in, we would see CP3 playing for LA team #1 instead of #2.
By your logic, the trade would never have even been discussed. Fact of the matter is, teams will deal with LA because LA has the resources to take ty contracts and offer good pieces.
We're talking about business here, not fantasy basketball teams.
The CP3 deal was about Kevin McHale's obssession with getting a scoring bigman, and Dell Demps was going to rape the Rockets in that deal. But that wasn't what caused the owners to cry foul. It was seeing CP3, Kobe, and Bynum together in the same uniform that caused them to demand Stern step in. No one cared that the Hornets were getting away with robbery; only what the Lakers were doing.
Stern blocking the trade has nothing to do with the fact that it was the Lakers, you're really stretching it to say all these small market teams hate the Lakers.
The situation was that the lockout just ended and CP3 was the first blockbuster trading piece. Small market teams were already having trouble getting FAs and arguably the best PG in the league wanted to go to the biggest market team. This would have been a bad beginning for the small market teams because it would just further enforce the futility of their existence.
Sending CP3 to a lesser team, the Clippers, just made them settle down. If CP3 was going to Knicks or Bulls (let's just assume rose didn't exist), then the small markets would still complain.
The league doesn't hate the Lakers, just fans of other teams do. Spurfans making up a good chunk of that, if I might add.
You basically just reiterated what I posted.
One of the main arguments among owners during the lockout was the gap between big and small market teams. "The rich get richer" so to speak (see Gasol to the Lakers in 2008 for crap and the complaints it caused around the league). Owners also wanted to put a stop to stars in small markets forcing their way into larger markets (whether it be free agency or demanding a trade to a certain team) to form super teams like the Heat and like Melo did to get to New York with Amare.
Then the first thing that happens after the lockout is CP3 to the Lakers (Kobe, CP3, Bynum). The other owners understandibly complained (led by Mark Cuban, of all people) seeing as this was the very thing they were trying to keep from happening and Stern relented and vetoed the trade on their behalf. (IE: It was the OWNERS, not Stern who wanted the trade voided)
You really think there would have been a complaint from owners if it had been CP3 to Memphis or Portland? Nope. It was the fact that the league's top PG was going to the richest team that already had 2 of the top 3-5 players at their respective position that caused them to complain.
IE: It was all about keeping the Lakers from pulling another 2008 Gasol trade.
(Kwame Brown flipped for Pau Gasol and 2 les-----Gasol and Odom flipped for the league's Top PG)
Remember after the veto, Stern said the Lakers had to "give up more" in the trade if they wanted it accepted (as if their 2nd and 4th best player wasn't giving up enough). That's because the owners insisted that the Lakers lose Bynum AND Gasol if they were gonna get CP3.
Why? Because they didn't want to see a Kobe-CP3--Bynum "Big Three" in L.A. Again I say, it was all about blocking the Lakers from upgrading their Big Three.
Listen it's an opportunity for Nash don't get it twisted...If Kobe never rings again it's eternally
Kobe 5
Nash 0
it's also immortalized in pictures
Kobe is only looking for glue guys at this point...that's why he denigrated Dwights skills as similiar to Tyson Chandler - Kobe don't give a he knows he's destined to win 7 chips...
sit back and relax son
Not in the least.
The small market teams didn't care about COMPETING as much as they did in making a PROFIT. How many teams in the NBA turned a profit that year? Right. Lakers didn't have to give up more players for CP3, they had to give up more money one way or another. In the post-lockout, the trade was seen as a steal for both sides when small market teams saw that Lakers should have a greater financial burden placed on them by the logic that they could afford it. They knew the team was planning to get CP3 + D12 for basically the same price Bynum + Gasol was costing them. It had nothing to do with jealousy, they feared the same problems would come back that added to the lock out talks in the first place.
You said, in the beginning, teams don't want to deal with the Lakers. The CP3 debacle doesn't prove that in the least. If Cavs were shipping out CP3, Lakers would be their 1st choice as well because it's the best possible deal they could get. All it proves is that small market teams are scared less that they will be completely irrelevant if all the FAs went to big markets.
Yet, there is a catch-22 here: The only choice besides the FA market they have is rebuilding through the draft (long and possibly expensive process that is rarely successful) or dealing with the big dogs. The teams WANT to deal with Lakers, Celtics, Bulls, etc because they have what they want: Pieces and resources to deal with bad contracts.
Nothing you said specifically backs up teams not wanting to deal with Lakers. It merely says they don't want to be left out of the food bowl when one of the big dogs comes to eat. You know that small market teams want to be able to ship their problems away and history has shown Lakers are one of the best teams to negotiate that with.
What an incoherent, ignorant, idiotic post. Well played sir.
Pass with the educational goods.That would be true if fans ran the teams
The trigger was already pulled when NO was sending us CP3 with the Rocket's help. If Stern didn't step in, we would see CP3 playing for LA team #1 instead of #2.
By your logic, the trade would never have even been discussed. Fact of the matter is, teams will deal with LA because LA has the resources to take ty contracts and offer good pieces.
We're talking about business here, not fantasy basketball teams.
Pass "kicking ass" 1st is your new screen name. Stop messing with the cowtipper like det.
Somebody bold pass1st for this post alone. GNSF in denial. This post should have its own stickied thread. It will be interesting to see cowtipper tries to^ .
Good pass. I concur 100% son.
So is Sarver rigging the league now, Lakerfans? I'm just trying to make sure I'm up on the latest butthurt anti-Laker conspiracy theories, tbh...
Lakers trade got blocked cause the owners who owned the team were going to lose luxury money, and told Stern to shove it. Seriously the Hornets were costing them money already why would they want to lose more? The idea that teams don't want to deal with LA is equally stupid, they had two trades before the deadline last year. However, Odom's antics may lead teams to question which players they want from LA since he turned into an albatross. Lakers main weakness is they haven't drafted for , sans Bynum, so they have zero young trade assets.
Also, let's not kid ourselves here... Odom and Scola was a crap return for CP3, and they wouldn't have helped the Hornets rebuild and get sold to a new owner... Clippers gave up more for CP3, so we deserve to have him, tbh...
Get over it, Lakerfans, and just be glad you got away with the Pau Gasol robbery...
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