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ESPN was showing today an interesting stat.
The team with the best record at the all-star break NEVER wins the championship that season They show the Standings with the Spurs on top with a measly 1/2 game lead over Phoenix.
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the bulls had the best record at the all-star break
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From the same article you read.......
Who will claim the No. 8 spot in the West? Wolves, Nuggets or Lakers? For the record: Boston remains our anic pick -- we picked the Celtics before the season and see no reason to audible -- and the feeling here is that No. 8 in the West comes down to Minnesota and Denver. We picked the Lakers to miss the playoffs when the season started ... and see no reason to audible after seeing their road-heavy remaining schedule.
You should try to read the entire article sometimes you nitwit.......
Guys, don't feed the troll.
It was shown on TV
I think they said the Bulls is the only team to win the le after having the best record at the break.
But...
The Spurs are not Michael Jordan's Bulls
then edit ur first post please.
u said none.
re-write correct stat sir
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Last edited by san antonio spurs; 09-17-2011 at 10:21 AM.
Well, when I heard it on TV they made it sound like the Spurs are not going to win it all, it sounded more like a diss to the Spurs.
then i guess that proves the spurs arent winning it all this year, oh wellThe team with the best record at the all-star break NEVER wins the championship that season They show the Standings with the Spurs on top with a measly 1/2 game lead over Phoenix.
Stats are there for a reason, just like when the Spurs score over 100 points in a game they are something like 23-0
word has it that when the spurs outscore their opponent they are undefeated as well
There you go!
Where would we be without stats!
so u want us to debate on what u think u heard on TV (that none team have won the le when leading through the ASB), or on the real stat???(that actually one team has done it) and why not the spurs???
then please,edit ur first post.
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Last edited by san antonio spurs; 09-17-2011 at 10:21 AM.
No need to edit my post, The Bulls with Jordan are not comparable to any team in the league.
Well screw that stat. Yeah we're not Jordan's Bulls, but were Duncan's Spurs. Thats good enough.
Big consolation!
LakerGod, the Red Sox didn't win a world series for 86 years, stats and trends are made to be broken.
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Sure!
You can only hope
Problem with your theory
Spurs usually peak after the All Star break. So this team is gonna be scary come the next few weeks. The Spurs were .4 away from a visit to the finals last year (probably would have beaten the pistons too). They have an even better team this year.
BTW LakerGod, shouldn't you be worried about your precious lakers making the playoffs?
They are down to the Celts and your savior has only 13 points on 4-11 shooting in the 4th.
I think the spurs already peaked.Problem with your theory
Spurs usually peak after the All Star break. So this team is gonna be scary come the next few weeks. The Spurs were .4 away from a visit to the finals last year (probably would have beaten the pistons too). They have an even better team this year.
BTW LakerGod, shouldn't you be worried about your precious lakers making the playoffs?
They are down to the Celts and your savior has only 13 points on 4-11 shooting in the 4th.
They usually do it after slow starting the season right?
Well, this is not the case this year, I expect the opposite.
Still hurt about .4 ?
Last time I checked you still had the chance to take game 6 and play a 7th game in SA.
You make it look easy!
Spurs usually peak after the All Star break. So this team is gonna be scary come the next few weeks. The Spurs were .4 away from a visit to the finals last year (probably would have beaten the pistons too). They have an even better team this year.
Hold on there Skippy, they were .4 secs away from going back to LA, up 3-2, and then they would have still had to beat Minn in WCFs before even getting to Finals.
Really?
They are down to the Celts and your savior has only 13 points on 4-11 shooting in the 4th.
Final Score:
Celtics 95
LA Lakers 104
well, i read an article on foxsports that the SPURS IS A LOCK.
AND, the Lakers as the 1st-round fodder...
Separating the West's contenders from pretenders
Kevin Hench / FOXSports.com
Posted: 5 hours ago
In the five years after Michael Jordan left the Bulls for retirement and ill-fated Wizardry, the Eastern Conference won a total of six games in the NBA Finals.
The league became so tilted to the West that the championship series was a mere formality, a leisurely ride down the Champs-Elysees for the Spurs or Lakers.
Also...
Eastern Conference playoff race
Thankfully, that has changed. Though everyone assumed form would hold last June, the Pistons ended the West's reign by pounding the Lakers. The arrival of Shaquille O'Neal in Miami has further balanced the conferences. So picking a Western Conference champion is once again just that and not a presumptive le pick as well.
That said, six of the eight teams in the league playing over .600 ball reside in the West. If the Eastern Conference champ wins it all again, it may well be because the Western champ simply has nothing left after dispatching its conference foes.
As the season moves into its final third, let's separate the pretenders and contenders in the wild West.
First-round fodder
Memphis Grizzlies
Give Mike Fratello the Coach of the Year Award if the Grizz make the playoffs, but don't be surprised when they get swept in the first round.
Memphis has ridiculous depth and plays great D, but the Grizzlies lack those go-to types that are critical in the playoffs when so many possessions come down to the final five seconds on the shot clock.
Los Angeles Lakers
The Lakers have Kobe Bryant back, but will it be enough? (Danny Moloshok / AP)
While the Lakers may have the best player in the NBA with the shot clock winding down in Kobe Bryant, they have little else that would indicate anything but a quick exit should they hang onto the No. 8 spot, which I doubt they will.
Pretenders
Minnesota Timberwolves
Expect the T-wolves to make a successful push to the playoffs under Kevin McHale and expect tongues to start wagging about how last year's conference runners-up could easily pull an upset in the first round. And then watch as Minnesota gets pounded by San Antonio and begins a new streak of getting bounced in the first round.
Kevin Garnett is still the best player in the game, but the members of his supporting cast have gotten old, hurt or downright ineffective in a hurry.
This whole lost season may be karmic payback for Latrell Sprewell's ridiculous comments about feeding his family.
Seattle SuperSonics
How can a team playing .700 ball at the All-Star break be a pretender, you ask? Easy. They have no post presence.
Jump-shooting teams like the Sonics have the greatest disparity between regular-season success and playoff failure. The reason is simple: open shots are just harder to come by in the postseason. And when Ray Allen, Rashard Lewis and Vladimir Radmanovic find everything contested on the perimeter, the down-low options of Danny Fortson, Jerome James, Reggie Evans and Nick Collison just won't be enough to avoid a first-round flameout.
If the season ended today, the Sonics would draw the Rockets in the opening round and probably be underdogs.
Phoenix Suns
Cheer up, Suns fans. Of the pretenders, your team is the best.
Though Amare Stoudemire gives Phoenix a more complete inside-outside attack than Seattle, the Suns are also overly reliant on long jump shots from Quentin Richardson, Steve Nash, Joe Johnson and corner sniper Shawn Marion to seriously challenge a team like San Antonio.
The Suns are also just a little too small. They've got a power forward playing center, a small forward playing power forward and a wee Canadian playing point guard. I know those three players — Stoudemire, Marion and Nash — are All-Stars, but size does matter in the NBA playoffs and Phoenix just doesn't have enough beef.
I'd love to be wrong about this and see the Suns playing in June because no team is more fun to watch.
Contenders
Houston Rockets
Yao Ming and Tracy McGrady are finally getting things figured out in Houston. And that make the Rockets extremely dangerous. (Pat Sullivan / AP)
If there's one team San Antonio would like to avoid in the Western Conference playoffs, it's Houston. After stumbling out of the gate to a 6-11 start, the Rockets have gone 26-10, including two wins over the Spurs, and are riding high on an eight-game winning streak.
While All-Stars Tracy McGrady and Yao Ming are now becoming the dominant inside-outside combo coach Jeff Van Gundy has been dreaming of, the key to the Rockets resurgence has been do-everything grinder Bob Sura.
Sura is averaging 10.8 points per game, 6.2 rebounds and 5.3 assists. In the last five wins of the Rockets' current streak, Sura has pulled down 50 rebounds. In the first win of the streak, he dished out 10 assists in a win over the Celtics, two off his season high. In mid-January, he poured in 35 points in a 94-85 victory over the Nets. Sura is in his 10th NBA season, and he has appeared in just six postseason games. He deserves another shot at the playoffs.
Dallas Mavericks
For the first couple months of the Erick Dampier era in Dallas, the big fella did all he could to confirm su ions that he would only play in a contract year. He was either on the bench in foul trouble or flexing his powers of invisibility on the court. I should know, I made the mistake of drafting him as the starting center on my roto team.
But shortly after I released him — natch — Dampier became the man in the middle the Mavs have been missing. In one recent 11-game stretch, he averaged 13.5 rebounds a game. He also scored in double figures in eight straight before hurting his foot in a win at Golden State last week. If Dampier can contribute in the pivot, the Mavericks could be very tough in the playoffs.
Dirk Nowitzki remains a matchup nightmare at the four, stretching defenses with his unblockable jumper and killing smaller guys on the block. The rotation of Josh Howard, Michael Finley and Jerry Stackhouse at the 2-3 spots has been outstanding, and Jason Terry has stabilized the point since taking over for rookie Devin Harris.
Dallas looked for real last week when it went into Phoenix and beat the Suns, 119-113, behind 33 from Finley and 30 from Howard.
Sacramento Kings
Yep, you heard it here first. The Kings, losers of six of seven, will make some noise in the Western Conference playoffs.
The consensus seems to be that the Kings blew their chance at a le when Peja Stojakovic missed a wide-open 3-pointer and Sacramento lost Game 7 of the 2002 Western Conference finals to the Lakers in overtime. But don't heap the dirt on them just yet.
I know health is an ongoing issue, but on paper this team would appear to be even better than the near-miss editions of recent seasons. Brad Miller is a better player than Vlade Divac, and Cuttino Mobley is much more explosive than Doug Christie. Mike Bibby is still cold-blooded. And had Stojakovic participated, do you really think Quentin Richardson would have won the 3-point shooting contest on Saturday?
The biggest question mark, of course, is Chris Webber. And yet all he's been doing is hanging triple-doubles on teams night after night. Even if he is playing on one leg, the guy is a monster.
They may not have the most depth in the conference, but their starting five may be the best in the NBA. If they are even reasonably healthy come playoff time, look out.
The Lock
San Antonio Spurs
All of this conjecture — can Webber's knee last, will Dampier disappear again — is irrelevant, of course, if the Spurs are healthy. No one in either conference will beat them.
They are just too experienced, too deep and too good to be beaten four times in seven games.
If not for Derek Fisher's miracle catch-and-shoot with four-tenths of a second left in Game 5 of last year's Western Conference semifinals, the Spurs might be gunning for their third straight le this spring.
This is probably coach Gregg Popovich's best team yet and a strong argument for the melting pot. San Antonio is a 41-12 Benetton ad with players from France, Argentina, New Zealand, the Central African Republic (Romain Sato is on the injured list) and two from Slovenia.
Tim Duncan has been struggling with ankle, knee and hip injuries and still the Spurs roll on, thanks largely to their incredible backcourt.
The spectacular Manu Ginobli has become a star. Tony Parker is the most battle-tested 22-year-old point guard in league history. And neither figures to wear down in the playoffs because A.) they are both crazily fit and B.) the Spurs have the deepest backcourt in the NBA. Brent Barry, Devin Brown and Beno Udrih are all snipers who will punish teams for doubling Duncan.
Joining that five-headed backcourt on the perimeter is small forward Bruce Bowen, the NBA's premier lockdown defender who has rediscovered his 3-point stroke.
Complementing Duncan up front are 7-footer Rasho Nesterovic, big-game Bob Horry and the relentless Malik Rose.
All of this will add up to a Western Conference championship and NBA le No. 3 for San Antonio.
...hmmnn, INTERESTING, isn't it?
TP the most "battle-tested 22 year-old point guard in league history"?
Guess this guy never heard of Magic Johnson.
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