The more teams in the league the weaker the overall QB play is, there just aren't that many great QB's in the world at the same time.
Right now we have...
Rodgers
Brady
Brees
Eli
Peyton
Big Ben
Rivers
Romo???
It's looking like Newton will be a great one someday.
Sure you can win without that elite QB (Niners, Ravens) but you need so many other things working for you. Far easier to win with that great Qb.
The top 10 retired
1.Joe Montana
2.Brett Favre
3.John Elway
4.Dan Marino
5.Johnny Unitas
7.Otto Graham
8.Steve Young
9.Troy Aikman
10.Fran Tarkenton
I think Bradshaw/Starr just had great teams around them.
Last edited by Avante; 07-17-2012 at 09:05 PM.
Romo being listed as an elite QB
Think about it. What if there were only 16 teams. What do we have now?
You know what a..?...means?
How many Superbowls did Marino win? Wanna compare stats?
Absolutely!!!!!!!
Do a little homework.
Both a couple plays away from meeting in the Superbowl. What's your idea of winning?
Big Ben was 10th in passer rating, 11th in touchdown passes, and in the top 10 in the league in INT's thrown. That's a decent QB, not an elite one.
Philip Rivers is even worse, he threw 20 INT's to finish 3rd in the league, which is something no elite QB does.
I admit tho that I didn't check either of their 100m times.
You don't look at "one" season you compare careers? Now try it again.
So tell me what former QB ran a 10.26 100m? You brought it up.
Check out Rivers career stats vs Eli's.
Last edited by Avante; 07-18-2012 at 12:34 PM.
Winning the superbowl.
Yep Jim Kelly sucked! Couldn't hold a candle to Trent Dilfer.
if there were only 16 teams, the chances of another Montana/Young situation happening increase substantially.
Nobody cares about that.
The bottom line is that the more teams involved dilute the game. Simply common sense.
The last time a team with a non-elite QB won the superbowl was the 2002 season. In today's NFL, it's abundantly clear you need an elite QB to win a superbowl.
Stop it, ok? Everyone said how the Ravens should have beat the Pats, everyone! If Ted Ginn doesn't get hurt (why Williams was returnig kicks) there is a great chance the Niners beat the Giants. So it would have been the Harbaugh bowl. Stop acting like that wasn't what happened. So no you don't have to have that elite QB to win a SB.
I would place Roger Staubach somewhere on that top ten list.
What happened was Tom Brady played Eli Manning in the superbowl.
Sorry bro, while I respect your opinion and yes Staubach was great and would be in the top 15...........................
Easily.
Marino was a selfish stat hound who did not have the intangible of getting teamates (o and d) to play hard for him.
I loved the guy in his record year in going to the Bowl.
Afterwords when he publicly demanded 1 buck more then Joe Montana got, he lost all kinds of people including teamates.
Favres comeback year that the cheating cheapshot Saints ended only by another of their cheapies blocked an epic year by old Farve. To go with his earlier Bowls.
Explain how it dilutes the QB play
I can see why it dilutes QB play.
In a team that had 16 teams, there wouldn't be a team with Kevin Kolb and John Skelton competing for a starting job.
You can't have Alex Smith going 1/13 on 3rd down (with that 1 conversion being the final play when the Giants played everyone deep), and expect to win. QB/WR are what you need on O in today's game. If Elite Manning didn't step up the way he did with all those injuries, Giants would have been out of the playoff race in December. Game managing QB's don't work in today's game.
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