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Pacers set to sign Miller, trade him to Kings
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By Marc Stein
ESPN.com
Indiana, Sacramento and San Antonio are on the verge of a three-team trade that will send Brad Miller to the Kings, ESPN.com has learned. The deal would foil attempts by Utah and Denver to sign the free-agent center.
HERE'S THE DEAL (SO FAR)
Kings get: C Brad Miller
Pacers get: F/C Scot Pollard
Spurs get: G/F Hedo Turkoglu and G Ron Mercer
The deal calls for Indiana to sign Miller to a multiyear deal and ship him to the Kings, who consider him the ideal long-term replacement for Vlade Divac, the 35-year-old center entering the final year of his contract.
As part of the exchange, Indiana receive Scot Pollard as a replacement for Miller, after the Pacers determined that they couldn't absorb the luxury-tax implications of meeting Miller's money demands.
The trade will also send swingmen Hedo Turkoglu and Ron Mercer to the Spurs as potential replacements for free agent Stephen Jackson. Turkoglu and Mercer are both in the final year of their contracts, preserving San Antonio's salary-cap flexibility for next summer when it must re-sign Manu Ginobili. Jackson is seeking a long-term deal.
It's expected that at least one more player will be involved in the deal, likely going to Indiana, to satisfy salary-cap requirements
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Pull the trigger.
**** yes.
Then dump Mercer.
I LOVE IT!! Finally a ray of hope...I hope it works out.
I especially like Turk. He had limited minutes and often made the most of them.
Position: F
Born: 03/19/79
Height: 6-10 / 2,08
Weight: 220 lbs. / 99,8 kg.
From: Turkey
2002-03 Statistics
REBOUNDS PER GAME
TEAM G GS MPG FGM-A FG% 3PM-A 3P% FTM-A FT% OFF DEF TOT APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
SAC 67 11 17.5 165-391 .422 29-78 .372 88-110 .800 .50 2.30 2.80 1.3 .37 .18 .75 1.90 6.7
GO SPURS!
-G
Sad to part ways with SJax. Turkoglu though at 6'10'' can play 2-3 and 4, he's more versatile (even though softer).
Pull the trigger.
We could've traded dead weight for Mercer and Artest over a year ago, but the Fantasy Summer of 2003 plan got in the way of that.
Mercer + Artest >= Mercer + Turkoglu
I like the idea of not being committed to Mercer and Turkoglu past next summer. We know we will have them for a year regardless. This is yet another example of how trades put you in control, and free agency doesn't.
Does that mean SJax is out if we do this?
This trade doesn't happen unless the Spurs have the cap room, Ghost Jr. Now crawl back in your hole.
Yeah,... if only we'd done that we might have won the Championship last year.We could've traded dead weight for Mercer and Artest over a year ago, but the Fantasy Summer of 2003 plan got in the way of that.
Oh wait.
Also, I'd take Turkoglu anytime over Ron "Mental" Artest.
Turkoglu>Artest
No question about it!!
Artest will never be a Spur.
My point is that this is a very similar deal to the one we turned down a year ago - because we thought we would do better this summer. We were wrong.
Oh yeah, this summer wasn't about signing max free agents. It was about "flexibility."
You have no point. Anyways that Mercer & Artest deal was a figment of Sam Smith's imagination, Ghost Jr.
So let's see...the Spurs have a young core and they can add Turkoglu to that....as well as preserve cap room to re-sign Ginobili. Damn that sucks.
Admiral,
Why trade for Artest when you have Bowen to your team?
Artest is emotionally unstable.. Spurs didn't accept that deal because Artest is a walking at ude.. he doesn't fit in with the team character.. it's a deal the Spurs would have never accepted even if they weren't conserving capspace.
Thanks to our flexibility this summer, we were still able to pull this off. We could have pulled the trigger last year, Artest could have blown up as a Spur, we would have lost the Championship, and we never would have known what this summer could have brought.My point is that this is a very similar deal to the one we turned down a year ago - because we thought we would do better this summer. We were wrong.
I don't understand the gripe.
Turoglu >>>>>>>>>>>>> Artest
MUCH better.
Plus hes ateam player, not a nut job like Artest.
You really are going to this excuse too often. First you said the Payton deal was not real, and then you said the same about Shareef Abdur-Rahim. Now Smitty for Mercer and Artest was false as well? And you know this how?You have no point. Anyways that Mercer & Artest deal was a figment of Sam Smith's imagination, Ghost Jr. -Marcus Bryant
I wasn't complaining about this deal, but noting that it is eerily similar to the one we refused a year ago. That is, unless your "sources" were right and it wasn't really discussed.So let's see...the Spurs have a young core and they can add Turkoglu to that....as well as preserve cap room to re-sign Ginobili. Damn that sucks. -Marcus Bryant
I understand what this move does for us, and I like it. I think it's a great move. I'm sorry if that means SJax is gone, but that's the way it goes sometimes.
How is this a similiar deal other than Mercer? Also, if you had Mercer on the team now how could you make a "similiar deal"?
Give it up Admiral.
Because all those were friggin' rumors reported by well known speculators. How the F do you think the Spurs were going to get Abdur-Rahim? Steve Smith and a smile? Get Fing real.You really are going to this excuse too often. First you said the Payton deal was not real, and then you said the same about Shareef Abdur-Rahim. Now Smitty for Mercer and Artest was false as well? And you know this how?
Turkoglu AND Tony on the same team?!? Is it possible to have two of the 50 most beautiful people on the same team?
You guys are letting baises get in the way of objectivity.
On the basis of pure basketball ability, Artest >> Turkeyglu or Bowen.
I don't want Artest, but the fact remains IF he ever gets his head on straight, he a DPOY and probable third-team All-NBA.
The question for the Spurs is, can Hedo play some credible minutes at the 4? And this probably means no Piatkowski, right?
Artest isn't that good. 3rd team all-nba??
That's funny, Bounce.
Who is SA gonna give up in salary? Sign n trade Jackson?
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