shut up and cook those fries.
good jobs gone forever, bad jobs (working poverty hourlies with no benefits) paying less than America's t unemployment insurance.
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While a majority of jobs lost during the downturn were in the middle range of wages, a majority of those added during the recovery have been low paying, according to a new report from the National Employment Law Project.
The disappearance of midwage, midskill jobs is part of a longer-term trend that some refer to as a hollowing out of the work force, though it has probably been accelerated by government layoffs.
"The overarching message here is we don't just have a jobs deficit; we have a 'good jobs' deficit," said Annette Bernhardt, the report's author and a policy co-director at the National Employment Law Project, a liberal research and advocacy group.
The report looked at 366 occupations tracked by the Labor Department and clumped them into three equal groups by wage, with each representing a third of American employment in 2008. The middle third - occupations in fields like construction, manufacturing and information, with median hourly wages of $13.84 to $21.13 - accounted for 60 percent of job losses from the beginning of 2008 to early 2010.
The job market has turned around since then, but those fields have represented only 22 percent of total job growth. Higher-wage occupations - those with a median wage of $21.14 to $54.55 - represented 19 percent of job losses when employment was falling, and 20 percent of job gains when employment began growing again.
Lower-wage occupations, with median hourly wages of $7.69 to $13.83, accounted for 21 percent of job losses during the retraction. Since employment started expanding, they have accounted for 58 percent of all job growth.
The occupations with the fastest growth were retail sales (at a median wage of $10.97 an hour) and food preparation workers ($9.04 an hour). Each category has grown by more than 300,000 workers since June 2009.
Some of these new, lower-paying jobs are being taken by people just entering the labor force, like recent high school and college graduates. Many, though, are being filled by older workers who lost more lucrative jobs in the recession and were forced to take something to scrape by.
"I think I've been very resilient and resistant and optimistic, up until very recently," said Ellen Pinney, 56, who was dismissed from a $75,000-a-year job in which she managed procurement and supply for an electronics company in March 2008.
Since then, she has cobbled together a series of temporary jobs in retail and home health care and worked as a part-time receptionist for a beauty salon. She is now working as an unpaid intern for a construction company, putting together bids and business plans for green energy projects, and has moved in with her 86-year-old father in Forked River, N.J.
"I really can't bear it anymore," she said, noting that her applications to places like PetSmart and Target had gone unanswered. "From every standpoint - my independence, my sense of purposefulness, my self-esteem, my life planning - this is just not what I was planning."
As Ms. Pinney's experience shows, low-wage jobs have not been growing especially quickly in this recovery; they account for such a big share of job growth mostly because midwage job growth has been so slow.
Over the last few decades, the number of midwage, midskill jobs has stagnated or declined as employers chose to automate routine tasks or to move them offshore.
Job growth has been concentrated in positions that tend to fall into two categories: manual work that must be done in person, like styling hair or serving food, which usually pays relatively little; and more creative, design-oriented work like engineering or surgery, which often pays quite well.
Since 2001, employment has grown 8.7 percent in lower-wage occupations and 6.6 percent in high-wage ones. Over that period, midwage occupation employment has fallen by 7.3 percent.
This "polarization" of skills and wages has been do ented meticulously by David H. Autor, an economics professor at the Massachusetts Ins ute of Technology. A recent study found that this polarization accelerated in the last three recessions, particularly the last one, as financial pressures forced companies to reorganize more quickly.
"This is not just a nice, smooth process," said Henry E. Siu, an economics professor at the University of British Columbia, who helped write the recent study about polarization and the business cycle. "A lot of these jobs were suddenly wiped out during recession and are not coming back."
On top of private sector revamps, state and local governments have been shedding workers in recent years. Those jobs lost in the public sector have been primarily in mid and higher-wage positions, according to Ms. Bernhardt's analysis.
"Whenever you look at data like these, there is this tendency to get overwhelmed, that there are these inevitable, big macro forces causing this polarization and we can't do anything about them. In fact, we can," Ms. Bernhardt said. She called for more funds for states to stem losses in the public sector and federal infrastructure projects to employ idled construction workers. Both proposals have faced resistance from Republicans in Congress.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2012/08/31...finds.xml?f=19
Gecko/Ryan/Repug home stretch message will be JOB JOBS JOBS, but their budget strategies clearly don't create any jobs.
shut up and cook those fries.
Yep.
Get that English degree so you can work at McDonalds.
right-wingers, who believe gecko's bull about him being a job creator, chiming in with fascinating, intellectually stimulating contributions
Will you permanently leave these forums if he does? After-all, you are so certain it will not happen.
most people I know with English degrees work for tech companies, like me.
You serve fries at a tech company?![]()
That doesn't make sense.
What does a Tech company need with an English Major?
Japanese or Chinese, I can understand. Or do you work in japan or China?
LOL...
That must be it.
Works in the cafeteria.
I work in Austin, used to take customer service calls before I got to work from home doing admin work. Your degree doesn't set your career path in stone. I work in SAP all day.
Sweet. I'm an SAP fan.![]()
Aye, it's the one thing that consistently does what it is supposed to around here![]()
I can no longer take you serious.....not really.....but SAP and everything it stands for.
Honestly, I always wanted to meet the sales people for SAP that convinced my company to buy a product out of the box that in no way, shape, or form models itself around our business and then "shaping" it around our industry.
Are you really this ing stupid?
Do you think every Pyschology major is a Psychiatrist? Or that every Education major is a teacher? THe list goes on and on.....as does your stupidity.
if gecko follows his bull budget strategy, I'm 100% it won't be the reason for any job creations, but it will impoverish millions of seniors, and public employees, while enriching the 1% and UCA.
That's on your IT guys. If it's set up correctly and tested extensively, it's a gem. I've worked with every major ERP system under the sun. Nothing beats the flexibility and analysis/reporting tools of SAP. I'm currently using PeopleSoft...it's like the profoundly re ed cousin of SAP.![]()
Peoplesoft is the CRM system where I work, the repair orders feed to SAP from it. What is abysmally re ed is they added a GUI overlay developed in house so the orders go from it to Peoplesoft to SAP then to the depot's repair management software![]()
Nice. The more interfaces the better!![]()
This has been going on for a long time. I remember the same complaints during the last administration. The only reason things were not as dire then is because people lived off of their home equity. Our trade policy has destroyed the employment situation in this country. We have all the cheap goods that such a policy brings about, but things like healthcare, food, and energy are going up and draining everyone's bank accounts.
The fact that lower wage jobs are replacing those lost ones should be unsettling. It simply serves to widen the economic divide imo.
The fact it doesn't make sense to you is probably why you're just a parts changer.
So now we know why UCA pushed so hard for "globalization" since 1980. To Human-Americans secondarily while primarily enriching themselves.
I'm perfectly happy being a Parts Changer. Been doing it for just over 30 years now. I have no desire to change careers. Now being a parts changer on semiconductor equipment was the cleanest of the jobs I had, I have thought of working on medical equipment.
Agloco...
What do Medical Equipment service personnel make today?
Republican Presidents’ Depressing Record On Wage Growth
Wage growth has failed to keep up with record-setting corporate profits, and wages as a percent of gross domestic product reached an all-time low after the Great Recession, as BusinessInsider’s Henry Blodget noted today. Wages as a percentage of the economy have fallen precipitously since their peak in the 1960s, when the minimum wage reached its maximum buying power and the middle class was strongest. Interestingly, Republican presidents, whose failed supply-side policies have led to given them significantly weaker job creation records than their Democratic counterparts, have presided over the three steep declines in wages as a percentage of the economy,
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/201...s-wage-growth/
VRWC/conservatives/UCA War on Employees over 35 years:
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
colleges just gave away too many degrees the past several years imho. in the old days you could get a well paying job even w/o a basic college degree, and nowadays a college degree doesn't give you a pinch of advantage in the job market. even though you are smarter people and have better knowledge than those whom you get employed by, you have to follow every re ed order they send you and act like a complete dumbass
you never get striped of what you've learned, however. knowledge will benefit your entire life and that's not what the rich uneducated s can buy with their $ tbh
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