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    The average teacher salary in Chicago is $76,000 before benefits, while the average family in Chicago earns $47,000. The teachers rejected a 16% increase over 4 years. They only pay 3% of their own healthcare costs. For every new dollar set aside for public education in Illinois, .71 is set aside for teacher retirement costs. And what are they getting for that investment? Only 15% of fourth graders read at a fouth grade level, and 56% of students entering 9th grade wind up graduating high school.

    They also get all major holidays and three months off in the summer.

    What the are they thinking?

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    They're thinking that they've got the City of Chicago by the shorthairs. They're probably right too.

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    I'm not sure what they're thinking, but I'm thinking that the two women, front and center in the photo, ing disgust me.

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    Look at that ing meathook on the lady in the front right corner.....Jesus ing Christ.....you sure this isn't the Milwaukee Teachers Union that is photo'd?

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    And how about Coco there in the middle? She looks like the leader of the sea people in the Phantom Menace movie.

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    No question that starvation is not a tool in their strike.

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    First off., $76k aint that much in Chicago.

    Second, the 47k median is meaningless in the context of high unemployment.

    Third. No teachers get three months off in the summer. None. And virtually everyone gets major holidays off.

    Fourth...Teacher retirement figures need to be put in context....Teachers are generally ineligible for SS benefits.

    Fifth...you are linking student performance entirely to teacher performance. Not a particularly bright notion.

    What the are you thinking?


    All that aside, I find the thought of public teachers striking as particularly abhorrent. If the 16% figure is correct, then they are idiots for turning it down. When I was teaching, I wan't doing it for the fantastic salary. They shouldn't be either.

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    First off., $76k aint that much in Chicago.

    Second, the 47k median is meaningless in the context of high unemployment.

    Third. No teachers get three months off in the summer. None. And virtually everyone gets major holidays off.

    Fourth...Teacher retirement figures need to be put in context....Teachers are generally ineligible for SS benefits.

    Fifth...you are linking student performance entirely to teacher performance. Not a particularly bright notion.

    What the are you thinking?


    All that aside, I find the thought of public teachers striking as particularly abhorrent. If the 16% figure is correct, then they are idiots for turning it down. When I was teaching, I wan't doing it for the fantastic salary. They shouldn't be either.
    Oh, granted they probably have some pretty suckass kids to work with. And yes, I rounded up from 2 1/2 months to 3 months.

    As for the holidays, most people get a day or two at most for Christmas/New Years, not 2 weeks plus.

    Still looks like a damn good package.

    Still, when you are spending $13,000 a student those results suck pretty bad.

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    You guys are both missing the point.....look at those women. They deserve nothing!

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    That 13k is broken out how? that all salary?

    Two week Christmas breaks were going away when we were in HS, CC. Of course, back then tablulating and calculating semester grades were a pain in the ass...what with having to chisle the grades in stone tablets and all that.
    Now, it's what, maybe a week? Just looked at my kids's school calendar. Yep. One week.

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    You guys are both missing the point.....look at those women. They deserve nothing!
    You're obsessed with homely women. Go get you one of your own!

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    The Chicago school system faces a $667 million deficit this year, which will balloon to nearly $1 billion by next year.

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    You're obsessed with homely women. Go get you one of your own!
    No, not obsessed, just particularly disgusted by the wildabeasts that are in that photo.

    Couldn't the photographer found a less obese group in the crowd?

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    The Chicago school system faces a $667 million deficit this year, which will balloon to nearly $1 billion by next year.
    They are hardly unique. But it is Chicago. They have their own, unique inability to get things done.

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    No, not obsessed, just particularly disgusted by the wildabeasts that are in that photo.

    Couldn't the photographer found a less obese group in the crowd?
    Embrace it. You loves you some homely gals.

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    its that deep dish pizza.

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    That 13k is broken out how? that all salary?

    Two week Christmas breaks were going away when we were in HS, CC. Of course, back then tablulating and calculating semester grades were a pain in the ass...what with having to chisle the grades in stone tablets and all that.
    Now, it's what, maybe a week? Just looked at my kids's school calendar. Yep. One week.
    Checking the district I live in it appears to still be two consecutive weeks for Christmas/New Years.

    http://www.neisd.net/calendars/FINAL...02012-2013.pdf

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    Checking the district I live in it appears to still be two consecutive weeks for Christmas/New Years.

    http://www.neisd.net/calendars/FINAL...02012-2013.pdf
    Probably need to have the city look into that.

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    Embrace it. You loves you some homely gals.
    I'm on to you here TB....I'm not going to let you trick me into this!

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    From the Bureau of Labor Statistics - a study published in '08.

    Teachers work fewer hours than other workers per week (and this is NOT counting Summer/Longer X-Mas).

    Report

    AND teachers/education majors continue to get even dumber (anecdotal evidence to follow)

    Education department at the University my wife teaches at NO LONGER wants ed. majors to have to take Chemistry from the Chem. department. They want to develop their own "Chemistry for educators" course for THEIR very special students. They, of course, include science education majors in that. So, if they get your way, your child's science "teacher" might have never set foot in the science building at their university.

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    Keep trashing teachers, keep underpaying them, our future depends on it.

    You pay peanuts, you get monkeys.

    the avg career of school teacher in TX is about the same as avg NFL player.

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    You pay peanuts, you get monkeys.
    Which is why CEO's make the big money!

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    Which is why CEO's make the big money!
    TB

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    Not my fault you are unfamiliar with logic. Make asinine sweeping generalizations and you'll usually have to wear 'em.

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    Keep trashing teachers, keep underpaying them, our future depends on it.

    You pay peanuts, you get monkeys.

    the avg career of school teacher in TX is about the same as avg NFL player.
    $76k before benefits is peanuts???

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