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    That's what it boils down to for me. Do I trust a guy who home-brews, or a guy who has never had a beer in his entire life?

    I'm outta here for a few weeks. See ya kiddos!

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    What about a guy who's never had a job in his life?

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    Scott's running for office!!!111!11

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    How about the "religious, ethical" guy who brags he's never smoked a cigarette in his life, but his company helped US cigarette companies penetrate and supply 25%+ of cigarettes to the Russian market?

    "An explosive report sheds new light on Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney’s time at Bain & Company, describing how the firm made millions on big tobacco by helping Philip Morris increase its revenues in the United States, and aiding two other tobacco ans to dominate the Russian market. According to the Huffington Post, "Romney’s consultants helped foreign firms and aspiring oligarchs decide how to corral Russia’s riches — including writing a official manual that outlined how best to navigate the process. At the same time, Bain leveraged its contacts with senior Russian officials to arrange sweetheart deals for its tobacco clients."

    http://www.democracynow.org/2012/10/...o_romneys_firm




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    likely his dad would have cut him off.

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    "Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding"

    God bless

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    "Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding"

    God bless
    which lord?

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    can you trust a guy who whose wife is trying to shove only organic on America's plates? Romney abstains from something himself but Mrs. O is trying to force us to eat tofu and Brussels sprouts

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    can you trust a guy who whose wife is trying to shove only organic on America's plates? Romney abstains from something himself but Mrs. O is trying to force us to eat tofu and Brussels sprouts
    link?

    BigFood and BigAg plus synthetic from BigChem are the main reasons the simpleton cow-like Americans are diseased.

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    pretty sure Gary Johnson has had one or two in his day

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    The fact Mitt believes god is a 6'2" man who lives on planet Kolob bothers me a lot more than him never having a beer.

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    As long as our leader has nice hair and they have a dog, we will remain the leaders of the free world.

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    "Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding"

    God bless
    The founding fathers disagree with your sentiment as a means of effective governance.

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    "Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding"

    God bless
    greasing of the Road to .

    understanding = rational investigation, science.

    "Lord" equals all the made-up, self-serving bull from money-grubbing, self-aggrandizing, politicized pastors, priests, reverends, etc. who claim, you have to take them on "faith", that they know the Mind of God, so you better keep sending the lots of money.

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    i trust a guy who pays a higher tax rate over the past 20 years (20% on average) than boutons who pays much less and is in the 15% bracket right now, reserved for those making less than 35k per year.

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    i trust a guy who pays a higher tax rate over the past 20 years (20% on average) than boutons who pays much less and is in the 15% bracket right now, reserved for those making less than 35k per year.
    you right-winger are talented in the fantasy area, and wrong

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    romney has paid millions and millions in taxes...more than his fair share. i trust this guy more than i trust boutons:

    NORTHBOROUGH (FOX 25 / MyFoxBoston.com) One Northborough family was shocked to hear their names used during the vice presidential debate on Thursday.Paul Ryan mentioned the Nixon family, who were in a car crash in the early 90s. Two of the Nixon children, Rob and Reed, were paralyzed. Mitt Romney and his family learned of the tragedy and asked if they could come over for Christmas. Romney reportedly brought gifts.
    FOX 25's Tyisha Fernandes sat down with the Nixon family on Friday in the same Northborough home that Mitt Romney and his family visited 17 years ago.
    "It was amazing, they stayed for a couple hours, setting it up, and spent time," says Reed Nixon.
    "There were no cameras, no reporters," says Mark Nixon, patriarch of the Nixon family. "He only picture we took was a picture of our families together."
    The Nixon family needed some joy on that Christmas Eve in 1995. It was less than a year after that horrible accident. The family was leaving a church meeting when they crashed. It was the same Mormon church the Romney family belongs to, but a different branch.
    When the Romneys traveled more than an hour to spend a precious holiday with strangers at the time, the Nixons felt some happiness after feeling so broken.
    "Think about it, they could've done it anytime of year, but they did it on Christmas Eve," says Mark.
    The Republican vice presidential candidate tells the rest of the story.
    "Later on, he said 'I know you're struggling Mark, don't worry about their college, I'll pay for it,'" said Ryan.
    Mark says Ann and Mitt Romney basically gave them a blank check. They didn't end up needing the check, because Reed got a finance degree from Bentley University where his father works. Rob went to Brigham Young on a scholarship.
    Regardless, the Nixons see it as an incredible gesture that they will never forget.
    The Nixon family wants to make it clear that Romney stayed in touch with them long after that Christmas visit. Romney attended several fundraisers for the paralyzed boys. He also sent cards and gifts when they graduated from college.


    Read more: http://www.myfoxboston.com/story/198...#ixzz29CaqE0w8

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    romney has paid millions and millions in taxes...more than his fair share. i trust this guy more than i trust boutons:

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    Gecko is an extemely aggressive tax avoider, and I say a felony tax evader. your fantasy about his tax amount of course hides his tax rate.

    My guess, a guess since Gecko thinks he's en led to secrecy, is that he won't release 2009 tax return because he and/or his wife took advantage of the IRS amnesty for tax evaders exposed in Switzerland.

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    The bottom line is I only have trust in myself and I know no matter who's president I'm going to be just fine. The people in this country who have great stake in this election are women, military members, workers in manufacturing, workers in the public sector, and people approaching the senior citizen age. They're the ones who are getting ed when it's all said and done.

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    Gecko is an extemely aggressive tax avoider, and I say a felony tax evader. your fantasy about his tax amount of course hides his tax rate.

    My guess, a guess since Gecko thinks he's en led to secrecy, is that he won't release 2009 tax return because he and/or his wife took advantage of the IRS amnesty for tax evaders exposed in Switzerland.
    i'm sure he made up for it and paid extra when he donated 4 mil to charity this year tbh

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    i'm sure he made up for it and paid extra when he donated 4 mil to charity this year tbh
    It also makes for a great tax deduction.

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    you understand how tax deductions work right? if it was about keeping most most net pay after taxes you'd just keep the money. it's giving away 4 million to reduce your tax burden by less than 1 million, not a very solid investment tbh.

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    you understand how tax deductions work right? if it was about keeping most most net pay after taxes you'd just keep the money. it's giving away 4 million to reduce your tax burden by less than 1 million, not a very solid investment tbh.
    It's not my fault his Mormon faith requires giving to charity. I'm just saying he still gets a tax deduction for giving that money.

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    yeah but he's getting a 650k tax break while giving up 4 mil, it's not like it's some scheme to not give anything back and keep it all. mitt gives up plenty of money to all sorts of causes, like helping out that family at his church and offering to pay his kids college. some people are just really bitter/jealous of anyone with success and need to read this article:

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...iref=allsearch

    2 days agoRich, worried and buying ad time


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    CNN's Ashley Killough(CNN) - He's not running for office. He's not part of a super PAC. He's not lobbying for or against any ballot measures.
    But billionaire Thomas Peterffy is spending millions on television ads this election season with one cautionary message: Avoid socialism.

    – Follow the Ticker on Twitter: @PoliticalTicker

    – Check out the CNN Electoral Map and Calculator and game out your own strategy for November.
    "I grew up in a socialist country and I have seen what that does to people. There is no hope, no freedom, no pride in achievement," he says with a soft Hungarian accent in the ad. "The nation became poorer and poorer, and that's what I see happening here."
    Peterffy told CNN he expects to spend $5-$10 million on the ad buy, depending on its effectiveness. The spot will run on CNN, CNBC, Bloomberg, and test markets in Ohio, Wisconsin, and possibly Florida.
    The one-minute spot, which began airing Wednesday and will continue through Election Day, has no mention of any specific politician or lawmaker. It's simply a plea for an end to what he sees as growing hostility to personal success - and to vote Republican.
    "America's wealth comes from the efforts of people striving for success. Take away their incentive with badmouthing success and you take away the wealth that helps us take care of the needy," he says in the commercial.
    Peterffy was born in Budapest in 1944 during the deadly Soviet offensive that ended in the capture of Hungary's capital the following year. From then, the republic remained under communist control until it gained independence in 1989.
    The new ad features images of Peterffy as a child in Hungary and the impoverished conditions in his native country.
    "As a young boy, I was fantasizing about one day going to America, making a success of myself. The American Dream," he says.
    Peterffy left his country and moved to New York in 1965, where-without knowing English–he got a computer programming job on Wall Street. He later purchased his own seat on the American Stock Exchange in 1977 and, fast forward a few years, found himself the creator of Interactive Brokers, one of the first electronic trading firms.
    Forbes Magazine now estimates Peterffy, 68, has a net worth of $4.6 billion.
    Peterffy is not alone in his fear of a socialist America. Some Republicans have launched vocal accusations against President Barack Obama for pushing what they call socialist policies. In part, they're referring to Obama's tax proposal that would ultimately raise taxes on the wealthiest two percent of the country but maintain tax cuts for households making under $250,000 per year.
    Obama and his re-election campaign argue they're not attacking success, rather they have a different viewpoint on how to create success. At the debate last week, Obama repeated his signature line, saying he wants to make sure everyone is "getting a fair share, everybody's doing a fair share, and everybody's playing by the same rules."
    Peterffy, however, says such policies lead to a "slippery slope."
    "I’ve paid $1.9 billion in taxes in my lifetime, now I am being told that I am not contributing my fair share?" he said in an interview.
    "When you trash the leaders of businesses, they stop working hard. They go on vacation," he continued. "I even see that within myself, I used to be proud of building Interactive Brokers. I would look forward to work each day. Now I’m being told I’m not doing my fair share."
    According to filings with the Federal Election Commission, the billionaire donated more than $60,000 to the Republican National Committee last year and contributed to Republican candidates including Mitt Romney, Sen. Scott Brown of Massachusetts, Linda McMahon in Connecticut, and House Speaker John Boehner.
    Other billionaires, such David and Charles Koch, as well as George Soros, have played prominent roles this election, spending millions on ads for their respective candidates. But the ans maintain a low-profile, never appearing in the ads themselves.
    Asked why Peterffy wanted to personally take out the ad buy–and star in the spot–he said he was concerned that Americans were unaware of the "downside" of a "less stratified society."
    "If people want to go that way, I want them to go with eyes wide open, aware of all possible consequences," he added.


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    yeah but he's getting a 650k tax break while giving up 4 mil, it's not like it's some scheme to not give anything back and keep it all. mitt gives up plenty of money to all sorts of causes, like helping out that family at his church and offering to pay his kids college. some people are just really bitter/jealous of anyone with success and need to read this article:

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...iref=allsearch

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    You're acting like that's money Romney needs lol. He makes that money sitting on his ass. It's nothing to him. Celebrities, athletes, etc give to charity and have "feel good" stories but it doesn't mean that's the way they truly are. For every feel good story they probably have just as many where they were selfish and heartless.

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