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Stats player or team player
What is more important?
Is anyone impress with his development, cause im not.....disregard the injury
he was unfortunate to be traded to the spurs where his playing behind the big3, then u have clowns like neal, green and blair who needs shots to get going...KL is only there for the scraps whatever he can get offensively...so much talent going to waste imo
i look at the cats rookie MKG and lillard on the blazers who are given free reigns to run the team, damn i wish KL had that opportunity to ball hog and fill up the stat sheet, i wanna see his fkn talents not goto waste thats not allowed to be shown...
exciting player to look forward too down the line, but if POP continues to him...his better off bolting to another team
Stats player or team player
What is more important?
Who gives a about stats? The NBA is about winning and Kawhi is on a winning team.
You think he'd rather be losing every night playing 40 minutes with the Bobcats?
Also, can we please stop comparing Kawhi to MKG? Kawhi went mid round is a very weak draft, MKG went 2nd in the strongest draft in a decade.
Ridiculous thread all round.
Except I have Kawhi being the second best player in a supposedly weak draft; it's stronger than advertised considering the 2010 draft was bleh.
The problem was that all the lottery teams took the wrong talent. Derrick Williams (in Adelman's doghouse right now) over KL or Faried? Vesely over Kemba Walker? Tristan Thompson over Chandler Parsons?
i dont think KL draft class is that weak, if he was on another team, his talents will be shown...his being held back on the spurs
No, he has been working with the best shooting coach in the league and some of the best players in the league. He's on the best team to get better, people just have irrational expectations, he will never be a first or second option offensively in his career but at the same time he can be worlds better than most defensive specialists. Fact is, as good as his offense gets, and it's getting pretty damn good with hints of a mid-range game recently, it'll only be matter if he can play elite defense.
so when do we expect him to be moving up the offensive touches? not just touches in the system, the green light to shoot anytime he wants outside the system...
a player of his talents can beat his man of the dribble and penetrate for a dunk, layup or mid jumper...is force to be a spot up shooter....PATHETIC, when he can be more diverse on offense if allowed to....
Did you even watch Kawhi before he got injured? The kid was pulling up from mid-range instead of simply shooting corner 3s. He's also a disruptive defender and good rebounder.
no cause i was too busy watchin hero ball,
KL has been overshadowed by players on this team that his not given the opportunity to shine
Stupid thread once again.
So basically the OP wishes the Spurs were a bad team.
KL is a second-year player who is developing a better offensive repertoire and is showing signs of adding a midrange game to his already potent 3 point shot. What are you looking for, honestly? He isn't ready to be a superstar yet, and the spurs don't need him to be one yet. They already have 3 superstars, one of whom is playing close to MVP caliber ball. KL's time will come. Right now, he's a role player.
Wow. This thread. Then again, I guess it's better than last year when TDMVPDPOY posted repeatedly about how he wanted Duncan to retire to make room for Splitter the Second Coming.
That seems to be the gist of it, yeah. Sounds like he'd rather Kawhi "shine" as opposed to the Spurs.
I really love what Kawhi brings to the team, but I think some people's expectations of what he will become are unrealistic. Yes he was a huge steal in the draft and yes Pop has all but declared him the future of the franchise. But I don't think he is going to every turn into a deadly one on one scorer or NBA superstar. I think he is going to become a better defender and develop some more moves with the dribble but I see him as an Andre Iguodala or Danny Granger caliber player. He is going to be a very player who would start on just about any team, but I don't see him developing into a guy who could carry a team deep into the playoffs without significant help. So for now I say he needs to focus on using his physical gifts to become the elite defender we know he can be, and he needs to focus on what he can do to make the Spurs win now. Parker and Ginobili could have had more impressive individual careers if they had been playing for teams that didn't have a player as good as Duncan. They could have scored 25 a night every night if that is what the team needed them to do, but a team led by solely Tony Parker or solely Manu Ginobili would not have had a great chance of winning a championship. They developed their game in order to help the team win championships. And that is what Kawhi Leonard seems to be doing. Maximize the potential of the team, not the player.
LAST few games splitter has shown he is the messiah
3 stooges are holding back the new players.....must prepare for post duncan era, accept the losses now for the greater cause....
I think he's actually serious, tbh.
KL shining is better then building fans hopes up of another 60win team playoff fodder exit
I like KL but the big 3 eat 1st. Thats the way it should go.
He'll get his shot in a couple of years. Better to let him learn to play without the ball. This will make him a better player.
So you're saying a second year player should be showcased over three guys who have collectively been a part of at least 3 NBA Championships, multiple All Star appearances, regular season and NBA Finals MVP's and an Olympic Gold Medal. TIMVP says you're serious. I say you are delusional. You need to get some fresh air and re-think a few things. Remember, you don't always have to select the "Submit" button.
So you think a team built around Kawhi and Splitter would be better right now than a team built around Timmy, Tony and Manu?
Truth bomb.
KL does not have to be the #1 option, not what TDM is saying.
But you *Big 3* geezers need to give it a rest. They're not "big" anymore. Occasionally absolutely. Consistently? Ain't happened since 2007.
Balanced approach would be to slide more minutes and shots to KL and Splittsville. Not make them #1 and #2, just give them more. Proven they can handle it.
CIA Pooped had a very nice approach last season then crapped the bed when it took some real coaching vs OKC. On his way, has 5 already on the way to 6.
Embrace change or get ready for #6.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...highlight=2008
How pessimistic of you. The Spurs are not just some bull team like the Wizards or the Bobcats the Spurs are a championship caliber team that has at least 2 more rings than other high-caliber teams not named the Lakers or the Celtics and 4 more rings than the rest. This is an elite team with a high ceiling and they have just as good a shot as anyone not named the Heat to win a 5th ring. Duncan continues to play at an elite level, Parker is showing signs of regaining his elite level of play from last season, and Ginobili seems to finally be returning to the court as the Argentine star we remember. Add in the big role players like KL, Jax, Splitter (when he's pissed) and guards that could possibly mature into something important for the team (De Colo, Mills) and you've got a recipe for success. Not to mention Pop is one of the best coaches in the league.
Your pessimism is unwarranted. I like Kawhi as much as anyone but he needs to continue his role as a competent starter and has no need currently to be "the one" to carry us through games. A green light to chuck shots anytime when we have so much firepower on this team? That's just ridiculous. Team players over stat padders anyday.
last season Stabula?
(as i posted i don't want KL #1 but to continue as is why should anyone expect anything different then last years playoffs?) For that matter
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Why is it all these posters with 5000+ posts are such ing morons?
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