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    http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursna...w-twin-towers/

    Let's hope Pop continues to have faith in Splitter and his playing with TD grows as the season goes along.

    Here's the article from Spurs Nation today.

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    It only took Gregg Popovich two-plus seasons, but it appears as if he’s finally overcome his aversion to deploying Tim Duncan and Tiago Splitter side-by-side.
    The two bigs have gone from never playing together, to rarely playing together, to starting the past nine games next to one another.
    Little more than a third of the way into the season, Duncan and Splitter have already shared more minutes on the court this year (222) than the past two combined (159). Indeed, in Splitter’s rookie campaign the two played in a paltry eight games together.





    The VINDICATION Pop thread is misplaced...this is why Pop needs vindication ....for in up the past two seasons le hopes.


    Like I said before;

    Can the Spurs win a le IN SPITE OF POP?


    So far....umm no.


    Genius coach, 4 rings, blah-blah....who would you get to replace him blah-blah....

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    most overrated coach imo....

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    We had le hopes IF Splitter was on the floor?

    imo he was in no way ready for the Grizz. And we are not beating the Thunder.

    in fact I think his playing time along side Duncan is due to Tim's mobility and his outside shooting. Tiago can thank Tim for his time warp.

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    Still can't believe reporters make a living by copying stuff from these forums

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    We had le hopes IF Splitter was on the floor?

    imo he was in no way ready for the Grizz. And we are not beating the Thunder.

    in fact I think his playing time along side Duncan is due to Tim's mobility and his outside shooting. Tiago can thank Tim for his time warp.

    No, there is always hope of a le - every year. Maximizing your chances is a simple basic thing. Any poster here and any spurs fan (except for Popsuckers) could see that Bonner/Blair should have NEVER,NEVER,NEVER,EVER be placed ahead of anyone else on the roster. Except for the genius coach everyone else could see the obvious.

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    most overrated coach imo....

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    We had le hopes IF Splitter was on the floor?

    imo he was in no way ready for the Grizz. And we are not beating the Thunder.

    in fact I think his playing time along side Duncan is due to Tim's mobility and his outside shooting. Tiago can thank Tim for his time warp.
    Never getting playing time might have something to do with it.

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    It only took Gregg Popovich two-plus seasons, but it appears as if he’s finally overcome his aversion to deploying Tim Duncan and Tiago Splitter side-by-side.
    The two bigs have gone from never playing together, to rarely playing together, to starting the past nine games next to one another.
    Little more than a third of the way into the season, Duncan and Splitter have already shared more minutes on the court this year (222) than the past two combined (159). Indeed, in Splitter’s rookie campaign the two played in a paltry eight games together.





    The VINDICATION Pop thread is misplaced...this is why Pop needs vindication ....for in up the past two seasons le hopes.


    Like I said before;

    Can the Spurs win a le IN SPITE OF POP?


    So far....umm no.


    Genius coach, 4 rings, blah-blah....who would you get to replace him blah-blah....
    Boy, you sound like a spolied Spurs fan. Pop just like any other coach deserves criticism when warranted. We're human and nobody gets it right all of the time.

    If it was so easy to roll the ball out and coach superstar players, then Mike Brown would still have a job. Avery Johnson would still have a job. Doug Collins would still have been of the Chicago Bulls instead of Phil Jackson. Del Harris would still have been coach of the Lakers before Phil Jackson.

    But of course, we fans are so emotional and are quick to want a coach fired even a successful one like Pop. It never ceases to amazes me that common sense and perspective is lacking from fans.

    Pop doesn't deserve to be treated like a saint by a lot of Spurs fans. However, he doesn't deserve to be treated like a coach who doesn't know what he's doing either.

    The point rather it's now or 2 years late....he has adjusted to using Splitter with Duncan. And to say Splitter was ready before then is premature. Splitter was injured and he didn't react well to the physicality of the NBA in the beginning. And like most good players he has improved and made Pop comfortable into making that decision. The stupid thing to do from a coaching perspective is continued to be stubborn (which Pop has been accused of) and play Blair in the starting lineup. Well, like any good coach he adjusted and it may pay off in the long run.

    Amazing!
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    Also, silverblk mystix.....Pop even said when Splitter came from Europe that would not be the next David Robinson or the Spurs savior to pair with TD. Of course and some of the media overlooked that and thought he would be the missing piece to ring #5.

    Again, nobody is being a popsucker....but his critics can be just as a bad as those who has loved everything he has done. He is still a very good coach that has a created a successful winning culture and for the most part didn't screw up from having Duncan and not winning any les at all. Also has a created stable environment in a pro sports culture that doesn't believe in stability. Evidence of the seven NFL coaches fired yesterday and the team the Spurs played last night that fired their coach on Xmas. Also, that team out west firing their coach after 5 games into season.
    But when you are a spolied fan...having perspective is impossible.

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    tbh Splitter making free throws may have something to do with that. Him not getting injured may too.

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    Also, silverblk mystix.....Pop even said when Splitter came from Europe that would not be the next David Robinson or the Spurs savior to pair with TD. Of course and some of the media overlooked that and thought he would be the missing piece to ring #5.

    Again, nobody is being a popsucker....but his critics can be just as a bad as those who has loved everything he has done. He is still a very good coach that has a created a successful winning culture and for the most part didn't screw up from having Duncan and not winning any les at all. Also has a created stable environment in a pro sports culture that doesn't believe in stability. Evidence of the seven NFL coaches fired yesterday and the team the Spurs played last night that fired their coach on Xmas. Also, that team out west firing their coach after 5 games into season.
    But when you are a spolied fan...having perspective is impossible.
    That was a really unproductive thing to say of a player who had NEVER played in the NBA. Really genius to shortchange a player before he has even had a chance.

    I wasn't expecting another DR but it wasn't too difficult to see that he had potential to be a rotation player and it didn't take a genius to realize that any player with potential can reach that potential with PLAYING TIME!

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    Splitter didnt play all season til game 4
    reporters were asking if pop planned on playing splitter since he was 7 feet tall
    you could tell popovich was annoyed but he finally gave in and splitter had a double double
    if he was ever given consistent minutes and some respect he could have been doing what hes doing now 2 years ago

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    Boy, you sound like a spolied Spurs fan. Pop just like any other coach deserves criticism when warranted. We're human and nobody gets it right all of the time.

    If it was so easy to roll the ball out and coach superstar players, then Mike Brown would still have a job. Avery Johnson would still have a job. Doug Collins would still have been of the Chicago Bulls instead of Phil Jackson. Del Harris would still have been coach of the Lakers before Phil Jackson.

    But of course, we fans are so emotional and are quick to want a coach fired even a successful one like Pop. It never ceases to amazes me that common sense and perspective is lacking from fans.

    Pop doesn't deserve to be treated like a saint by a lot of Spurs fans. However, he doesn't deserve to be treated like a coach who doesn't know what he's doing either.

    The point rather it's now or 2 years late....he has adjusted to using Splitter with Duncan. And to say Splitter was ready before then is premature. Splitter was injured and he didn't react well to the physicality of the NBA in the beginning. And like most good players he has improved and made Pop comfortable into making that decision. The stupid thing to do from a coaching perspective is continued to be stubborn (which Pop has been accused of) and play Blair in the starting lineup. Well, like any good coach he adjusted and it may pay off in the long run.

    Amazing!
    Tiago couldn't make free throws to save his life either. That was one of the biggest flaw of his game and why he was a liability last year against the Thunder. And lol at people thinking we even had a hope in 2011 against the Mavs, the two time defending champion Lakers or the Thunder even if we had gone passed the Grizz.

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    TD's late career shooting improvement from the midrange allows him to play with the range challenged Splitter more nowadays, right ?

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    Tiago couldn't make free throws to save his life either. That was one of the biggest flaw of his game and why he was a liability last year against the Thunder. And lol at people thinking we even had a hope in 2011 against the Mavs, the two time defending champion Lakers or the Thunder even if we had gone passed the Grizz.

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    Pop preaches aw-shucks, "get over yourself" selflessness, but he certainly didn't practice what he preaches with regards to keeping Splitter locked up until now. Splitter should have been thrown into the mix from jump street, and I believe Pop's ego is the culprit.
    Ignoring Splitter was not a basketball decision.

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    Pop preaches aw-shucks, "get over yourself" selflessness, but he certainly didn't practice what he preaches with regards to keeping Splitter locked up until now. Splitter should have been thrown into the mix from jump street, and I believe Pop's ego is the culprit.
    Ignoring Splitter was not a basketball decision.
    Exactly. There's no need to defend Pop over this. There's nothing much different now then back then. Sure Tiago's gotten better at free throws and adjusted to the game but that would have happened much sooner if he had been playing sooner. Pop wasted two years of his prime for no reason. Blair never developed a jump shot and had no problem starting with Tim.

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    All Splitter needs from now is getting some midrange jumpshots hability. With Splitter and Timmy shooting almost from anywhere, the twin towers will be a real treat.

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    shoots enough midrange shots here
    coaching staff probably doesnt want him doing it though
    if someone shoots 70% from the free throw line they could probably hit 40% from midrange

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    Never getting playing time might have something to do with it.
    Not being ready had more to do with it.

    We were not beating Memphis with Splitter.

    And this combination we currently employ is far from set.
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    Exactly. There's no need to defend Pop over this. There's nothing much different now then back then. Sure Tiago's gotten better at free throws and adjusted to the game but that would have happened much sooner if he had been playing sooner. Pop wasted two years of his prime for no reason. Blair never developed a jump shot and had no problem starting with Tim.
    +1

    Pop is one of the best in the business. He has a great system, he's a first ballot hall of fame coach, he has won championships, and he has been instrumental in making basketball an international affair by scouting guys like Manu and stashing European players before most teams were doing it. I'm not even being sarcastic. Pop is an amazing coach and a great person to have in the FO.

    That said, Pop made a mistake with Splitter. It's not a crime to admit that imo. He doesn't need defending because his overall resume speaks for itself quite frankly.

    Although I was on board with starting TD/Splitter 2 years ago, even I have to say that I wasn't expecting this frontcourt to be *this* good. I think that once they work something out with Splitter's touches, this is the frontcourt that has enough upside to give SA a puncher's chance against teams like OKC or Memphis short of a trade. Hopefully Pop stays the course.

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    is this the same clown that didnt play ghill in the playoffs rookie season when he showed h2h matches he held his own in the regular season against the top players he was asign to defend...we all know what happen the following year when pop decided to play him in the playoffs

    the same clown who didnt play rookie splitter in the playoffs, then the following year he plays him we advance to next round...

    overrated yeh

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