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    But there is a more fundamental problem with the idea that guns actually protect the hearth and home. Guns rarely get used that way. In the 1990s, a team headed by Arthur Kellermann of Emory University looked at all injuries involving guns kept in the home in Memphis, Seattle and Galveston, Tex. They found that these

    weapons were fired far more often in accidents, criminal assaults, homicides or suicide attempts than in self-defense.

    For every instance in which a gun in the home was shot in self-defense, there were seven criminal assaults or homicides, four accidental shootings, and 11 attempted or successful suicides.


    The cost-benefit balance of having a gun in the home is especially negative for women, according to a 2011 review by David Hemenway, director of the Harvard Injury Control Research Center. Far from making women safer, a gun in the home is "a particularly strong risk factor" for female homicides and the intimidation of women.


    In domestic violence situations, the risk of homicide for women increased eightfold when the abuser had access to firearms, according to a study published in The American Journal of Public Health in 2003. Further, there was "no clear evidence" that victims' access to a gun reduced their risk of being killed. Another 2003 study, by Douglas Wiebe of the University of Pennsylvania, found that females living with a gun in the home were 2.7 times more likely to be murdered than females with no gun at home.

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/article?a=...=28&sub=Sunday

    So in fact, all y'all ignorant bubbas, less every one of you, really want guns in the home to keep your intimidated, or dead.

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    Guns kill people

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    Guns are evil

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    Gun manufacturers want their guns to be used by criminals

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    Gun owners have no problem with children being murdered

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    Obama's left shoulder doesn't hurt

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    dime-store rhinestone cowboys are 1.5 centuries behind.

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    Obama wasn't worried about loading his shotgun rounds upside down.

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    Obama has a higher approval rating than the NRA

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    True

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    silly, but unregulated gun sales shovel guns into the hands of criminals

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    Obama has a higher approval rating than the NRA
    true

    In Just One Month, The NRA Has Torpedoed Its Reputation

    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/nra-a...#ixzz2JrG120RO



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    Gun owners have no problem with children being murdered
    gun owners and the gun industry don't GAF about who gets murdered (although the white rural racist gun-fellating bubbas are thrilled with brown/brown murders on black/browns).

    Gun violence and gun murders (Watering the Tree of Liberty!), suicides are unavoidable collateral damage to gun industry profits, Freedom! Liberty! 2nd Amendment! Home Defense! Marans!

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    Gun manufacturers want their guns to be used by criminals
    Gun manufacturers, like any for-profit business, have no morals, no ethics, just the overwhelming priority of profits.

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    Lol deranged, psychotic leftist lunatic militant

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    recreational, fun, "therapeutic" gun "solution":

    'American Sniper' Author Shot and Killed in Texas

    Since retiring from the Navy SEALS, Chris Kyle, who was known as America's deadliest sniper, would occasionally take fellow veterans shooting as a kind of therapy to salve battlefield scars.

    Mr. Kyle, author of the best selling book "American Sniper: The Autobiography of the Most Lethal Sniper in U.S. Military History," was with a struggling former soldier on just such an outing on Saturday, hoping a day at a shooting range would bring some relief, said a friend, Travis Cox.

    But Texas authorities said Sunday that for unknown reasons, the man turned on Mr. Kyle and a second man, Chad Littlefield, shooting and killing both before fleeing.

    "Chad and Chris had taken a veteran out to shoot to try to help him," Mr. Cox said. "And they were killed."

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/02/04...illed.xml?f=19

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    recreational, fun, "therapeutic" gun "solution":

    'American Sniper' Author Shot and Killed in Texas

    Since retiring from the Navy SEALS, Chris Kyle, who was known as America's deadliest sniper, would occasionally take fellow veterans shooting as a kind of therapy to salve battlefield scars.

    Mr. Kyle, author of the best selling book "American Sniper: The Autobiography of the Most Lethal Sniper in U.S. Military History," was with a struggling former soldier on just such an outing on Saturday, hoping a day at a shooting range would bring some relief, said a friend, Travis Cox.

    But Texas authorities said Sunday that for unknown reasons, the man turned on Mr. Kyle and a second man, Chad Littlefield, shooting and killing both before fleeing.

    "Chad and Chris had taken a veteran out to shoot to try to help him," Mr. Cox said. "And they were killed."

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/02/04...illed.xml?f=19
    So you are saddened by the countries' loss of these heros? Or is this something you are using towards your not wanting to waste a tragedy?

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    recreational, fun, "therapeutic" gun "solution":

    'American Sniper' Author Shot and Killed in Texas

    Since retiring from the Navy SEALS, Chris Kyle, who was known as America's deadliest sniper, would occasionally take fellow veterans shooting as a kind of therapy to salve battlefield scars.

    Mr. Kyle, author of the best selling book "American Sniper: The Autobiography of the Most Lethal Sniper in U.S. Military History," was with a struggling former soldier on just such an outing on Saturday, hoping a day at a shooting range would bring some relief, said a friend, Travis Cox.

    But Texas authorities said Sunday that for unknown reasons, the man turned on Mr. Kyle and a second man, Chad Littlefield, shooting and killing both before fleeing.

    "Chad and Chris had taken a veteran out to shoot to try to help him," Mr. Cox said. "And they were killed."

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/02/04...illed.xml?f=19
    holy that is crazy. RIP.

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    So you are saddened by the countries' loss of these heros? Or is this something you are using towards your not wanting to waste a tragedy?
    The tragedy wouldn't have happened if NRA/gun industry/gun-fellators hadn't pushed the totally silly idea of "recreation" with lethal weapons. How about conversations while walking or hiking? a bike ride and picnic? a poker game? etc, etc. Nah, we gonna fix your damaged brain by violence with lethal weapons.

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    I'm sure it was the NRA's fault and not PTSD.

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    I'm sure it was the NRA's fault and not PTSD.
    Just seems like a poor choice of therapy tbh.

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    Just seems like a poor choice of therapy tbh.
    I agree with this, but you would have to know his diagnosis. Taking someone out to shoot as therapy for PTSD is a bad idea. RIP Chief. Fair winds and following seas.

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