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discussion already took place in game thread tbh but welcome
His impact will be limited when he's matched up against long, athletic wing defenders, unfortunately..it is the well-known reserved weapon for defenses to use once they realize their own PG is getting killed on defense..
There are examples every year..
Parker vs. Thabo
Rose vs. Lebron
Chris Paul vs. Danny Green/Bowen(using Spurs examples)
Westbrook vs. Kobe
A PG's size and style of play makes him susceptible to suffering in the playoffs, once defenses make a full effort to shut him down..
This game was meaningless in the standings and in the grand scheme..the Spurs coasted, while the Suns received clutch shots from terrible players(Morris, Johnson) and historically unclutch players(O'Neal), but it was another reminder that Parker will struggle against long, athletic defenders..
discussion already took place in game thread tbh but welcome
If he is to take that next step to be a truly dominant player, he will have to overcome this. He can't allow himself to be taken out of games like this. Sure, his teammates need to help, but if he has another level (and I am praying he does) he has to still be a factor when the obvious & predictable strategy is used.
I can think of instances this uear when teams have thrown length at Parker and he still dominated. Like DPG said, he just can't let himself be taken out of the game for the Spurs to have a chance at #5. It's not impossible though.
To his defense he did go to his jumper and bricked everything, but the aggression was there... the problem is he's much more effective going to the rim... I didn't like when he was forcing stuff though... there was no ball movement and it ended up in bad passes with little time left
Who are the long defenders he's going to face in the west playoffs?
He won't have to worry about anybody in the 1st round, but following that: Tony Allen, Iguodala, Brewer, Sefolosha, Lebron..
Sefelosha's the only one that matters.
thabo....................
don't see problems against Houston and the Clippers in the playoffs. But OKC with Thabo and Brewer and if we reach the finals, Miami can even put James on Tony. Then we finished.
Spurs are good enough to beat Memphis and Denver even with those two guarding TP, it's OKC and Miami you need to worry about.
Kobe/Artest wouldn't matter because they're slow footed... but Harlem pretty much built a solid list
I agree that they are good enough, but with Duncan potentially slowing down and Ginobili looking inconsistent and limited, Parker will need to play at a superstar level against those teams..
Sefalosha and Lebron are Tony's worst nightmare.
It is pretty hilarious watching Kobe try to guard TP. Most overrated defender of all-time, for sure. Might be worth having a Spurs-Lakers first round matchup just to see that. But yeah, I don't like our chances against either OKC or the Heat.
Couldn't agree more. The Spurs also lacking a second reliable perimeter scorer who can consistently go off for 20 points will doom them in the post-season.
Spurs don't run new plays, just the old TP/TD PnR or Manu/TD PnR.
Post up Kawhi or run the PnR with Kawhi/Splitter, the offense in crunch time wouldn't be so predictable...
This is when we miss Tim being young enough to haul the team through anything, tbh.
We need to bring Kawhi up to 2nd/3rd option quickly. He'll have to pick it up when Tony inevitably gets limited.
Btw, this isn't an indictment specifically on Parker, it's the case for the entire PG position..unless you have a genetic freak like Magic Johnson, there's a strong chance you will lose in the playoffs with a PG as your best player..
This might be a homer opinion, but the Spurs are one of the few teams in history that could manage to win with a PG as their best player IMO..Pop as a coach, along with the ball movement and versatility of the offense could potentially negate the PG theory..
This would require Duncan and Ginobili to perform at a star level for an entire series, but unfortunately, I'm skeptical that they still have the ability, especially the latter..
Sure he will have his struggles.... Just like every other NBA player that will be playing this May. If the Spurs win it will be a total team effort and they need everybody to play well. I mean everybody 1-9 or however many guys they play. I think that's been pretty obvious from the start.
Magic is a great example, he was tall as though lol! I would bring up one more, Isiah Thomas, if you are not him though forget it! He was not tall but dude was a great player and clutch. Jason Kidd I can think of somewhat as well, outside of that if your best player is a PG pretty much forget it like you guys said.The only way they can do that is they play great D and a guy steps up every night in the playoffs, doesn't matter who but one or two guys like the 04 Pistons show up in the games! Total team effort, but relying on D to get you the stops. Spurs need to make their FT's too, come on you miss that many down the stretch? Really?
not arguing the point, because historically PG led teams don't make it all the way. But our FO is pretty damn smart, couldn't they have figured out something else in the twilight of Timmy's career? I feel like we're expecting a lot out of Kawhi to take up that slack. I think he's totally up for it, but it's asking a lot imo.
tony parker on the yahoo home page, talking about how underrated he is, fml
The team got lax and didn't have their focus. Parker can be helped free with the laser focus. They didn't give Tony the extra step he needs with the solid picks or rubs and even Manu couldn't make a late game FT. Is it a worry that Parker can still be affected by long and athletic perimeter defenders? Yes, but this ain't a box on one defense. It's as if the team helped Tony get stopped with poor execution and shooting. Maybe they should have kept Blair in the game since his activity for the game was working. All in all, it's that precision offense that's required for a deep and meaningful playoff run. Today...it wasn't precision at all.
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