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    ...someone waives a player under the 'one time' luxury tax avoidance rule (there has to be a more succinct name) that they like?

    Just a thought, but Jalen Rose and Michael Finley could definitely work in SA.

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    i would love finley (even if it would meen glenn and brown out. )
    but MLE would be enough for him?

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    Finley = Nugget, if Dallas waives him.

    Jalen Rose is not a good fit unless he decides to give up his minute-demanding, ball-hogging ways and become what Nick Van Exel was to the Mavericks.

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    being that the mavs would still pay 51 million to finley why not

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    Finley always disappears in the playoffs. He doesn't need to be on next years roster.

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    Finley = Nugget, if Dallas waives him.

    Jalen Rose is not a good fit unless he decides to give up his minute-demanding, ball-hogging ways and become what Nick Van Exel was to the Mavericks.
    Ditto.

    Finley will be a starter, and get more money and minutes from the Nuggets if Dallas waives him. He'll become one of the most experienced players in the roster, with playoff experience. The Nuggs have a hole at SG, and he will fit perfectly in that role. It is a no brainer.

    Jalen Rose is a cancer.

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    I'm not completely buying the idea that Jalen Rose is a cancer, and I think he could work out well in San Antonio. He's a guy who is long, can play on the wing, and can create his own shot when necessary. He's also a guy who's getting to the end of the line -- while he was doing his interviews during the Finals, I had the sense that Jalen would love another crack at a le and would do what it takes to realize that opportunity.

    And I don't recall anyone saying that Jalen was a cancer when he was a Pacer, playing a huge role in getting that team to the Finals.

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    I'm not completely buying the idea that Jalen Rose is a cancer, and I think he could work out well in San Antonio. He's a guy who is long, can play on the wing, and can create his own shot when necessary. He's also a guy who's getting to the end of the line -- while he was doing his interviews during the Finals, I had the sense that Jalen would love another crack at a le and would do what it takes to realize that opportunity.

    And I don't recall anyone saying that Jalen was a cancer when he was a Pacer, playing a huge role in getting that team to the Finals.

    Agreed. A long 3 with good handles and a good stroke. A younger, and likely more expensive version of what I have in mind with Kukoc. Rose is definitely good enough to be a part of the rotation.

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    ...someone waives a player under the 'one time' luxury tax avoidance rule (there has to be a more succinct name) that they like?

    Just a thought, but Jalen Rose and Michael Finley could definitely work in SA.

    Do you really see this many all-stars in one team?
    C'mon, and in SA?

    You have to get real when it comes to this prediction and possibility talks.. on paper this could be a dream team...

    But having 4 to 5 allstars in a team? I can say that can definately break chemistry....plus due to the fact that this is the NBA, I don't even see it as a possibility.

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    Those guys are past their glory days, but still have some seasons left of solid basketball.

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    Those guys are past their glory days, but still have some seasons left of solid basketball.
    I agree, but we are not a desperate team... we just won a championship, I'm pretty sure we don't need them.

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    Complacency doesn't win championships. How is this being "desperate"? It's being opportunistic.

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    I think it's right to have a concern about just adding names without any concerns for chemistry.

    But, I think it's all fair to think that the guys who get released on this tax amnesty program are going to have something of a Glenn Robinson quality, in that they'll be guys who were once All-Stars, but who are now just trying to remind people that they can play and are relevant to the le hunt, while trying to get to that ring that has eluded them. Big Dog came here and did a great job of just fitting in without letting any "I'm an All-Star" issues surface. He mentioned, at several points, that it's really difficult to feel disrespected in San Antonio because Tim is so selfless and the team has such great success.

    I suspect you'd see the same type of sentiments (and a willingness to accept a role) from any of the amnesty casualties who might come to SA>

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    Complacency doesn't win championships. How is this being "desperate"? It's being opportunistic.

    Yes, but I think this might change when you bring in someone capable of being a franchise player.

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    Spurs find the right player and they'll use it right now. I don't think they'll wait for the likes of finley or rose.

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    Well, they would be told up front what the rules were. If they are still interested, good. There's no reason to just pass on a potentially shrewd acquisition just because "we're fine" today.

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    Agreed. A long 3 with good handles and a good stroke. A younger, and likely more expensive version of what I have in mind with Kukoc. Rose is definitely good enough to be a part of the rotation.
    Rose is the one guy who could be both the veteran PG the Spurs are looking for and provide help at the 3. He's versatile.

    But it would require an at ude adjustment. He hasn't been the most "team-first" kind of player in his career.

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    Personally, I'm waiting for someone under the radar that has something to prove, judging by the past... those kinds of players usually work in SA.

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    Personally, I'm waiting for someone under the radar that has something to prove, judging by the past... those kinds of players usually work in SA.

    Oddly enough, Kukoc and Rose come to mind. Man, if Finley is pissed by Cuban's move, maybe he comes to SA to torment the Mavs for the remainder of his career...

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    spurs added big dog late in the season and nazr and did not cause problems

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    Yes, but I think this might change when you bring in someone capable of being a franchise player.
    I think the point, though, is that neither of the guys mentioned in this thread are capable of being a franchise player anymore. They're paid like franchise players, but don't play like franchise players, and that's why they'd even be available in the first place. If they were still franchise-type players, their current teams wouldn't be letting them loose; they'd pay the big salary and the tax for a franchise guy.

    Here's a chance to get a guy who WAS a franchise player, who is looking to win a le, and who is willing to accept a role, and to get that guy without giving up anything.

    This team isn't bulletproof -- they were perilously close to coming home for Game 7 against Seattle and they struggled to close the deal with Detroit. I'd be hard-pressed to believe that there isn't room for tinkering in an effort to improve. It's not like this was the most dominant champion in NBA history; these weren't the 2001 Lakers or the 1983 Sixers.

    To me, though, the question is whether the Spurs feel that they already found THAT guy in Big Dog.

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    Oddly enough, Kukoc and Rose come to mind. Man, if Finley is pissed by Cuban's move, maybe he comes to SA to torment the Mavs for the remainder of his career...

    Marcus this idea makes a lot of sense.

    Why not hold onto the MLE? I think there likely will be some pretty talented players let go under this one-time exemption. If Big Dog was willing to come here for the vet-minimum why wouldn't Finley come over for the MLE?

    As for Sense not seeing that many all-stars wanting to be on the Spurs roster, last time I checked the Spurs were the NBA champs. What veteran player wouldn't want to be part of a proven winner?

    I think Glenn Robinson might have shown the league that playing for the Spurs can rebuild your rep and earn you a ring all at the same time. Not bad.

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    I think the point, though, is that neither of the guys mentioned in this thread are capable of being a franchise player anymore. They're paid like franchise players, but don't play like franchise players, and that's why they'd even be available in the first place. If they were still franchise-type players, their current teams wouldn't be letting them loose; they'd pay the big salary and the tax for a franchise guy.

    Here's a chance to get a guy who WAS a franchise player, who is looking to win a le, and who is willing to accept a role, and to get that guy without giving up anything.

    This team isn't bulletproof -- they were perilously close to coming home for Game 7 against Seattle and they struggled to close the deal with Detroit. I'd be hard-pressed to believe that there isn't room for tinkering in an effort to improve. It's not like this was the most dominant champion in NBA history; these weren't the 2001 Lakers or the 1983 Sixers.

    To me, though, the question is whether the Spurs feel that they already found THAT guy in Big Dog.

    IMO, Rose has his franchise right now....even if Bosh is getting his numbers, he still learning how to be a big man in the league, and Rose is taking the position of the leader.

    Finley is unhappy in Dallas,again IMO, they've prefferred Stackhouse over him on games because of his injuries and such, he's obviously not a franchise player, but he's the Rashard Lewis of that team. I anyone in the NBA would want him... knowing this I really doubt that he has the Spurs in mind...this is the NBA, players are going for money and a bigger role.

    I understand that the Spurs weren't dominant, but the thing is we won the championship, because we were always the better team. But what guarantees us that bringing a star to the team won't change anything in it? Usually it's bad on a Spurs team, and mostly because we already have enough starters on the bench..

    I don't know, but I really am lookin forward for a hustler that can give it all every night from the bench, we still need our sixth man, Barry isn't looking very good at this point.

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    Think of it this way, if these guys are attention hogs, are they going to get more exposure being the man for their team or joining a le team for a shot at glory? The Finals reminded people that Glenn Robinson was still (somewhat) in the league.

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    I think fwd maybe be one something
    BIG DOG could be that guy (he is under the radar)

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