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It's incredibly intolerant and insensitive of people to state the obvious.
It's incredibly intolerant and insensitive of people to state the obvious.
Bill Maher was pretty much dead on. People who try to equate Islam with Christianity are kneejerk liberal re s who let equality bull get in the way of reality. I hate Judaism, Christianity and Islam and think all three have an extremely negative impact on Western civilization but of the three Islam is by far the most violent, backwards and primitive.
What I don't get is why right wingers who agree with me about Islam supported a war that removed what was a secular dictator in Iraq, and also supported a president who allied America with the biggest Islamic theocracy in the world.
Maher seems pretty Islamophobic to me too
Had a similar discussion about this with Lefty, of all people, in the MIT thread:
People always come back with the same tired lines..."Not all muslims are violent." That's not the point. It never has been. It's all about the teachings of Islam, and the underlying messages. I'm not sure how anyone could objectively view the Quran and deny the violence it justifies its followers.
Muslim terrorists are as cherry-picking of their sacred texts as US/"Christian" terrorists/haters are of the (OT) Bible.
Top Ten Ways Islamic Law Forbids Terrorism
1. Terrorism is above all murder. Murder is strictly forbidden in the Qur’an. Qur’an 6:151 says, “and do not kill a soul that God has made sacrosanct, save lawfully.” (i.e. murder is forbidden but the death penalty imposed by the state for a crime is permitted). 5:53 says, “… whoso kills a soul, unless it be for murder or for wreaking corruption in the land, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind; and he who saves a life, it shall be as if he had given life to all mankind.”
2. If the motive for terrorism is religious, it is impermissible in Islamic law. It is forbidden to attempt to impose Islam on other people. The Qur’an says, “There is no compulsion in religion. The right way has become distinct from error.” (-The Cow, 2:256). Note that this verse was revealed in Medina in 622 AD or after and was never abrogated by any other verse of the Quran. Islam’s holy book forbids coercing people into adopting any religion. They have to willingly choose it.
3. Islamic law forbids aggressive warfare. The Quran says, “But if the enemies incline towards peace, do you also incline towards peace. And trust in God! For He is the one who hears and knows all things.” (8:61) The Quran chapter “The Cow,” 2:190, says, “Fight in the way of God against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! God loveth not aggressors.”
4. In the Islamic law of war, not just any civil engineer can declare or launch a war. It is the prerogative of the duly cons uted leader of the Muslim community that engages in the war. Nowadays that would be the president or prime minister of the state, as advised by the mufti or national jurisconsult.
5. The killing of innocent non-combatants is forbidden. According to Sunni tradition, ‘Abu Bakr al-Siddiq, the first Caliph, gave these instructions to his armies: “I instruct you in ten matters: Do not kill women, children, the old, or the infirm; do not cut down fruit-bearing trees; do not destroy any town . . . ” (Malik’s Muwatta’, “Kitab al-Jihad.”)
6. Terrorism or hirabah is forbidden in Islamic law, which groups it with brigandage, highway robbery and extortion rackets– any illicit use of fear and coercion in public spaces for money or power. The principle of forbidding the spreading of terror in the land is based on the Qur’an (Surah al-Ma’ida 5:33–34). Prominent [pdf] Muslim legal scholar Sherman Jackson writes, “The Spanish Maliki jurist Ibn `Abd al-Barr (d. 464/ 1070)) defines the agent of hiraba as ‘Anyone who disturbs free passage in the streets and renders them unsafe to travel, striving to spread corruption in the land by taking money, killing people or violating what God has made it unlawful to violate is guilty of hirabah . . .”
7. Sneak attacks are forbidden. Muslim commanders must give the enemy fair warning that war is imminent. The Prophet Muhammad at one point gave 4 months notice.
8. The Prophet Muhammad counseled doing good to those who harm you andis said to have commanded, “Do not be people without minds of your own, saying that if others treat you well you will treat them well, and that if they do wrong you will do wrong to them. Instead, accustom yourselves to do good if people do good and not to do wrong (even) if they do evil.” (Al-Tirmidhi)
9. The Qur’an demands of believers that they exercise justice toward people even where they have reason to be angry with them: “And do not let the hatred of a people prevent you from being just. Be just; that is nearer to righteousness.”[5:8]
10. The Qur’an assures Christians and Jews of paradise if they believe and do good works, and commends Christians as the best friends of Muslims. I wrote elsewhere, “Dangerous falsehoods are being promulgated to the American public. The Quran does not preach violence against Christians.
Quran 5:69 says (Arberry): “Surely they that believe, and those of Jewry, and the Christians, and those Sabeaans, whoso believes in God and the Last Day, and works righteousness–their wage waits them with their Lord, and no fear shall be on them, neither shall they sorrow.”
http://www.alternet.org/belief/top-t...ism?paging=off
And of course all "religious" men use their religion to oppress/abuse/2nd-class women
islam today is what the catholic church during the roman empire, dunno why people listen to these clowns how they should live their life....
Why is boutons so worthless? His parents must be so ashamed.
Religion in general is what enables narcissistic people to justify their crazy beliefs. Islam enables people to justify their violent beliefs and brainwash naive people into committing violent acts. There isn't anything in the bible (I don't think) about how you can kill someone for drawing a bad picture of Jesus.
Meanwhile Christianity leads to stupidity more than it does violence. It's what Angel_Luv used to convince Bo he should drop out of college and work at Jiffy Lube for the rest of his life in order to support her desire to sit on her ass all day. This leads to plenty of problems like an extremely uneducated and backwards population who throws their money into megachurch ponzi schemes, but not very much violence.
The Bible is full of about murdering people, too, but Christians either justify it or don't know about it at all. Since Islam is the only thing a lot of Muslims have going for them, they take their religion far more seriously.
Good point tbh, the one group of Christians in this country with the guts to interpret the bible completely (the Westboro Baptists), are pretty hateful people who have incited violence
Find a passage where believers are told to murder nonbelievers, simply for being nonbelievers.
easy money
Christians believe, teach if you aren't baptized and "accept Christ as your Lord God and Savior", you can't go to heaven.
This is above your head.
The entire basis for Christianity is God's love. By showing God's love to nonbelievers, they can also become believers. How exactly would murdering nonbelievers, simply for being nonbelievers, accomplish that?
We'd have to define some terms here. You can't go Abraham being asked to sacrifice Isaac as an example of Jihad.
the basic tenet of christianity belief is that God sends the non believer to /death
If the Bible is all about love and peace, it's even more ridiculous that Christianity probably outstrips all other religions in terms of atrocities committed throughout world history. By that token, at least Mulisms are consistent in their bat -crazy barbarism.
No, that would be an example of a God playing a sick joke on a faithful servant.
Leviticus 24
16*And he that blasphemeth the name of the*Lord, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the Lord, shall be put to death.
You're oversimplifying. But you know that.
lol the crusades and sending non-believers to being god's love.
That's some tough love tbh.
I knew you were coming with that. Give me a second. You could also go Jericho with it, where God tells the Israelites to go HAM on the women and children in Jericho. You have to understand the context of it though.
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