http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.c...s-intentional/
Dirty play? What do yall think?Late in the first quarter of the Heat’s overtime Game 1 win over the Pacers, Shane Battier drove into the lane and challenged Roy Hibbert on a layup attempt. Battier’s form was more than a little unorthodox as he went up for the shot, leading with his right knee that caught Hibbert squarely below the belt.
Battier was ruled for the offensive foul on the play, and the referees actually reviewed it to see if there was the possibility that it could be ruled a flagrant – something extremely rare when fouls are made by the offensive player.
The play stood as a common foul, and because it occurred so early in a game with so many dramatic moments that decided it late, it was largely forgotten.
A day later, however, Hibbert took to his Twitter account to remind us of what had happened, and to let us know that he didn’t believe that the contact was in any way accidental.
Roy Hibbert ✔ @Hoya2aPacer
U can knee or kick me every time u drive 2the rim. Ill be there 2protect the rim. That wasn't inadvertent. Battier knew what he was doing
It’s an interesting thing to bring up a day later, considering all that went down in the game after this particular play had happened. Perhaps Hibbert saw it again in a film session, or was reminded of it while meeting the media after practice. But for whatever reason it was still on his mind, and he wanted to make sure everyone knew he didn’t appreciate Battier’s actions.
As for whether or not it was intentional, only Battier can answer that question. It’s doubtful that there was an intent to injure on Battier’s part, but once he saw Hibbert was there and that he’d have zero chance of scoring over him, that’s when he likely decided to lead with the knee in an obvious attempt to make contact to try to draw the foul.
i dont think he tried to hurt him, but did use it to try to make hibbert think twice, and perhaps attempt to defend battier differently
Intentional
Why would he move his knee forward like that
I used to like Battier but it seems like his baggery has been rising to Derek Fisher levels recently tbh
Karl Malone used to do this all the time.
battier tells a real life story of good boy gone bad. dude was a candidate for fair play award almost every year when he was playing in memphis, and even during the years when he was playing in a hole named houston he could remain a kind person that he'd always been. but just a few years playing in miami has transformed him into a bag like everyone on the miami heat. you always need sort of nasty to be a good defender (like bruce and MWP) but ain't happening at the defensive end.
I've never thought of Battier as dirty until I saw ECF Gm1. He was holding, tugging jerseys, dropping cheap shots like this knee the whole game.
Lost a lot of respect for him after watching that.
hate playing against clowns who knee on layups...fkn pathetic
i take it you hated bruce bowen then?
Bowen didn't drive with his knee that I saw (other than kicking Nash in his junk and who hasn't done that?) but you are right that he did do the little tug here, push there that all savvy defenders do. No matter what non-Spurs fans say, Bowen never set out to hurt anyone.
I just thought that Battier was a cleaner defender before I watched that game. Maybe it's his age and he is having to throw more crap into his defensive game to compensate for declining athleticism, not sure.
But there is no call for driving with the knee or flagrants with the intent of actually hurting someone. That's the got way out, tbh.
Holly talk about hypocrisy
Battier came out like a Bruce Bowen on steroids. I don't know why or what, never seen him that deranged. Dude came to instill conflict into the game. IMO Pat Ryley had a conversation with him, or maybe even Stern and they told him, go out there, you have the green light to do whatever the you want but hurt those mother ers.
I used to like Battier but after game 1, he seems 10x dirtier than Bowen.
felt exactly the same
the infuriating thing is that the refs were letting him do whatever he wanted out ther
unbeleivable
battier does all his stuff with the intent to hurt
Bowen was a bit dirty. But the refs would call a foul for grabs, and kicks tbh
Battier was allowed to pretty much do anything out there. Especially in the 1st quarter. pretty de able of Stern imo
Not really, if you watch basketball, you know the difference between intent to harm/ cheap shots and savvy tricks to slow a defender down like a jersey tug or an arm hold. All of which Battier was using in Gm1 which was my point.
I guess Mav fans not having any Mav bb in their lives for a few years have caused them to forget how the game works.
Then again, maybe you're just a dumbass Kardasian fan and as such, there's no hope for you anyway, tbh.
I actually used to like him but he was playing sorry and this wasn't even it , the Hainsborough elbow and shoves were bad enough.
like I said in the game thread. Did one of the Pacers his wife?
Obvious flop by Paul is obvious, tbh.
Not surprised at the Mavfan hate. Dirk still can't sit down without a pillow...
Bruce Lee Bowen approves.
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