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    https://soundcloud.com/siriusxmnba/former-spur-antonio-daniels-on-how-manu-ginobilis-return-may-not-help-the-spurs

    http://news4sanantonio.com/sports/spurs-zone/ex-spur-antonio-daniels-thinks-re-signing-manu-ginobili-is-not-helpful-for-san-antonio

    Antonio Daniels saying that Manu Ginobili returning doesn't help San Antonio, although he digs the 14 mill to play a few minutes a game for one last season.

    In Today's Fast Break Locked on Spurs, (don't ask me why I all of a sudden was curious to listen to their podcast since podcasts are not my medium... ok yea I will tell you, I was curious to hear what Eli Horowitz thought of Garino. Newsflash: he's a huge Garino fan but he has ties to Argentina personally, he's far from an unbiased opinion giver).

    Around the 24 min. mark they start to discuss the above referenced quote from Antonio Daniels, which I had not heard b4. Anyways, Horowitz specially mentions that he'd like to see Manu rest more through the season because San Antonio needs to see what it has in Jon Simms and Kyle Anderson (I suppose Simmons is in a rather tight schedule), and other young players like Bertans (or Garino even, both seem to assume Garino makes the team, which is still to be seen.. seriously they are worse than some fanboys in this board, lol). Both agree Manu's biggest value at this point is his leadership. The podcast is here:
    https://audioboom.com/boos/4902380-l...lee-garino?t=0

    I was just surprised by someone in the media being so upfront about the Manu signing not necessarily being a good idea for the team, who is not trolling.

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    Manure is beyond finished. Should have really retired in 2013

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    Manu can bring so much to the table rather then just scoring points....

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    Haven't heard the podcast yet, but based on the commentary, I don't think it has anything to do with good/bad idea, but more like what his impact value on the court itself will be, and it's obvious that while he's still has enough gas in the tank, the days of SuperManu have been over for a while.

    He will help in other areas, like most vets do, in mentoring and leadership, while giving real fans one last look at a Spurs legend. For the Spurs this works at multiple levels: besides the mentor/leader aspect, it doesn't tie them up financially looking at future seasons, plus Manu has always been a fan favorite that puts people in seats at the AT&T Center, tbh... it also helps that new team leaders like LMA really appreciate his game, and have spoken highly of him, even at his old age/current level...

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    Lol, So he was helping the Texas Legends?

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    Manure is beyond finished. Should have really retired in 2013
    He played a great finals the year later though and hit that huge shot against OKC. I give you 2014, after that he should have hung em up IMO. That would have been the way to go out.

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    Someone has to be the Alpha and close games.

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    Antonio is a great guy, but he also thought Clippers had the best offseason last yr. I got in a few debates with him on Twitter about several things. Take his opinion for what it is.

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    It is certainly helpful for Manu's bank account and retirement plan, which is why we all work in the first place. Great deal for Manu.

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    Haven't heard the podcast yet, but based on the commentary, I don't think it has anything to do with good/bad idea, but more like what his impact value on the court itself will be, and it's obvious that while he's still has enough gas in the tank, the days of SuperManu have been over for a while.

    He will help in other areas, like most vets do, in mentoring and leadership, while giving real fans one last look at a Spurs legend. For the Spurs this works at multiple levels: besides the mentor/leader aspect, it doesn't tie them up financially looking at future seasons, plus Manu has always been a fan favorite that puts people in seats at the AT&T Center, tbh... it also helps that new team leaders like LMA really appreciate his game, and have spoken highly of him, even at his old age/current level...
    This one is a gift from me to you.. I hope it makes you smile.... the real reason Pop asked Manu to play another season:

    Yes he has to help slowmo out OK??? (and the crew: JSimms, Dijon, Bertans... etc.)

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    As an aside from the funny jokes, it just shocked me Daniels was calling Manu out as over the hill. He certainly can't take over games in the playoffs where it counts and Pop needs these guys to help out, so yea, leadership and example setting.

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    He played a great finals the year later though and hit that huge shot against OKC. I give you 2014, after that he should have hung em up IMO. That would have been the way to go out.
    I truly believe we woulf hace won 2013,and 2014 had he retired in 12

    He was the reson we lost in 13 and nobody was beating us in 14

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    I truly believe we woulf hace won 2013,and 2014 had he retired in 12

    He was the reson we lost in 13 and nobody was beating us in 14
    I still don't think we win in '14 if we don't lose in '13

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    I still don't think we win in '14 if we don't lose in '13
    I do. The hunger would have been there. To repeat I mean. Plus the Heatanic would have probably disintegrated for 2014 so road would have been easier.

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    I'm sure it helps every bench player (and every new player including Pau) with the possible exception of Simmons because Manu's presence really eats into his minutes in a key year for him. That said, for leadership alone, Manu is a net positive. Your lockeroom can't lose Timmy and Manu in the same year. They were the two real leaders of the team. (Kawhi is too silent, LMA too quirky to take that mantle last year....maybe this one?)

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    Antonio is a great guy, but he also thought Clippers had the best offseason last yr. I got in a few debates with him on Twitter about several things. Take his opinion for what it is.
    He was a co-host on a show on 760 that didn't last long. I want to say the other co-host stuck around but AD was let go. Agree that he seems like a cool guy but he's just not great at covering/talking sports tbh.

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    Always knew Antonio Daniels was a smart individual, tbh. One of the smartest basketball minds around.

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    Antonio is a great guy, but he also thought Clippers had the best offseason last yr. I got in a few debates with him on Twitter about several things. Take his opinion for what it is.
    Basically this.

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    Manu can bring so much to the table rather then just scoring points....
    For both teams.

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    For both teams.
    and the fans in rows 1-5...

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    This one is a gift from me to you.. I hope it makes you smile.... the real reason Pop asked Manu to play another season:

    Yes he has to help slowmo out OK??? (and the crew: JSimms, Dijon, Bertans... etc.)

    ----
    As an aside from the funny jokes, it just shocked me Daniels was calling Manu out as over the hill. He certainly can't take over games in the playoffs where it counts and Pop needs these guys to help out, so yea, leadership and example setting.
    Kyle the person always struck me as a humble, hard-working guy. You can't argue his commitment. My doubts have everything to do with the player, not the person, tbh...

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    https://soundcloud.com/siriusxmnba/former-spur-antonio-daniels-on-how-manu-ginobilis-return-may-not-help-the-spurs

    http://news4sanantonio.com/sports/spurs-zone/ex-spur-antonio-daniels-thinks-re-signing-manu-ginobili-is-not-helpful-for-san-antonio

    Antonio Daniels saying that Manu Ginobili returning doesn't help San Antonio, although he digs the 14 mill to play a few minutes a game for one last season.

    In Today's Fast Break Locked on Spurs, (don't ask me why I all of a sudden was curious to listen to their podcast since podcasts are not my medium... ok yea I will tell you, I was curious to hear what Eli Horowitz thought of Garino. Newsflash: he's a huge Garino fan but he has ties to Argentina personally, he's far from an unbiased opinion giver).

    Around the 24 min. mark they start to discuss the above referenced quote from Antonio Daniels, which I had not heard b4. Anyways, Horowitz specially mentions that he'd like to see Manu rest more through the season because San Antonio needs to see what it has in Jon Simms and Kyle Anderson (I suppose Simmons is in a rather tight schedule), and other young players like Bertans (or Garino even, both seem to assume Garino makes the team, which is still to be seen.. seriously they are worse than some fanboys in this board, lol). Both agree Manu's biggest value at this point is his leadership. The podcast is here:
    https://audioboom.com/boos/4902380-l...lee-garino?t=0

    I was just surprised by someone in the media being so upfront about the Manu signing not necessarily being a good idea for the team, who is not trolling.
    Not bad take, i just disagree. Their take is that Manu might eat up minutes that could go to younger players. Yet they also say that the Spurs need to keep manu rested, so that also means they still consider him someone usefull.

    Bottomline, Pop and the FO considers that Parker/Leonard/Aldridge leadership is not there yet and prefer Manu to be in that role off the court at least for now.

    I really think that the Net Plus Manu has is his leadership and winning experience. He is by now the winningest player on the team, having won not only in the NBA but also at continental and world level. And an example of behaviour, respect, work ethic and the Spurs culture. That is always needed, but this year is most important because youŽll have 2 upcoming leaders in formation (Leonard and Aldridge) and a lot of young players that aim to continue our road to success.

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    Who gives a . Another useless summer time thread

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    I truly believe we woulf hace won 2013,and 2014 had he retired in 12

    He was the reson we lost in 13 and nobody was beating us in 14
    So one player in a team-based sport is responsible for an entire team losing? Great job basketball expert...

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    I still don't think we win in '14 if we don't lose in '13
    I agree with you, that push was crazy they had after that loss. Manu was part of it too.

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