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    Tell people to stop commuting crimes, so we don't need to put them away.

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    Tell people to stop commuting crimes, so we don't need to put them away.
    That's just stupid. They are profiteeriNg off a nation that has too many laws.

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    That's just stupid. They are profiteeriNg off a nation that has too many laws.
    For you to say that, what crimes do you think they are jailing people for in PA that they shouldn't? Most places reduce their jail populations ly letting low level criminals out when they have budget cuts. Seems to me that they wouldn't be building jail space if they weren't the more serious type criminal.

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    Tell people to stop commuting crimes, so we don't need to put them away.
    Oh please...

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    For you to say that, what crimes do you think they are jailing people for in PA that they shouldn't? Most places reduce their jail populations ly letting low level criminals out when they have budget cuts. Seems to me that they wouldn't be building jail space if they weren't the more serious type criminal.
    If PA is like any other state they're jailing people for marijuana crimes when they shouldn't.

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    If PA is like any other state they're jailing people for marijuana crimes when they shouldn't.
    need more slave laborers to pump up the prison's stock price tbh, what a bargain even mexicans won't work for 25 cents an hour to spend at commissary tbh

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    So you want people to be free to hurt others?

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    If PA is like any other state they're jailing people for marijuana crimes when they shouldn't.
    Maybe. Can you back that accusation up?

    I know there are still some harsh states when it comes to marijuana, but for the most part, the only ones who get jailed are those dealing so large, they commit such crimes with weapons in hand as well.

    I think low level jailing of crimes for marijuana in the exception. Not the rule.

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    "I think low level jailing of crimes for marijuana in the exception. Not the rule."

    mandatory jail above certain amount of mj
    (as bull proof of intent to distribute) puts 100s of (black, brown) kids in jail, killing their job prospects and keeping them on the streets and in crime.

    WC always will blame the individual over the system or the organization.

    jailing kids for simple possession is a business for the PIC, quota fulfilling for the racist, sadistic cops, is NOT justice.



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    That's just stupid. They are profiteeriNg off a nation that has too many laws.
    At first I didn't know what you meant because schools and prisons have nothing to do with each other. But that is a good point about too many laws. However, most people in prison are in for a form of violent. So IMO those laws shouldn't be changed. As far as drug laws, this isn't the 80's. first offenders who bought a bag of coke/meth/etc. arent going to prison anymore. So the drug offenders in prison had other cir stances.

    What laws would you take out?

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    At first I didn't know what you meant because schools and prisons have nothing to do with each other. But that is a good point about too many laws. However, most people in prison are in for a form of violent. So IMO those laws shouldn't be changed. As far as drug laws, this isn't the 80's. first offenders who bought a bag of coke/meth/etc. arent going to prison anymore. So the drug offenders in prison had other cir stances.

    What laws would you take out?
    That's simply not true. Only 7%-10% of America's incarcerated population are violent offenders.

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    need more slave laborers to pump up the prison's stock price tbh, what a bargain even mexicans won't work for 25 cents an hour to spend at commissary tbh
    Avg cost of inmate per day: $833

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarc..._United_States

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    Another angle is that the prisoners are paid a coupl $/day to do work for external companies. Since most are black, it's nothing but slavery.

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    Another angle is that the prisoners are paid a coupl $/day to do work for external companies. Since most are black, it's nothing but slavery.
    Imagine that. It's like when you're incarcerated, you loose your freedom or something.

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    Imagine that. It's like when you're incarcerated, you loose your freedom or something.

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    That's simply not true. Only 7%-10% of America's incarcerated population are violent offenders.
    I wrote that wrong. I meant form of violence as in using force to commit a crime. I was including robbery since normally a violent act is used to get to the desired objects, but then there is the idea of people leaving their doors open. Or an employee using their access and etc.

    people aren't in prison for white collar crime, drugs, etc.

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    people aren't in prison for ... drugs, etc.
    Holy !

    property crimes, including "breaking" and entering, are very different from crimes on persons. and the punishment should be very different.

    here's another wonderful perversity of the US "justice" system:

    Anonymous Participant Who Drew Attention To Steubenville Rape May Face More Years In Jail Than Rapists


    If convicted of hacking-related crimes, Lostutter could face up to 10 years behind bars—far more than the one- and two-year sentences doled out to the Steubenville rapists. Defending himself could end up costing a fortune—he's soliciting donations here. Still, he thinks getting involved was worth it. "I'd do it again," he says.

    At first, he thought the FBI agent at the door was with FedEx. "As I open the door to greet the driver, approximately 12 FBI SWAT team agents jumped out of the truck, screaming for me to 'Get the down!' with M-16 assault rifles and full riot gear, armed, safety off, pointed directly at my head," Lostutter wrote today on his blog. "I was handcuffed and detained outside while they cleared my house."

    http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201...-rapists.shtml


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    It's not a "justice" system. It's a legal system.

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    "justice", for those of us who are literate, implies obviously a different meaning than justice.

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    lol boutons completely missing the point...again.


    I'll believe you're literate when you learn to construct a sentence correctly.

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    Right, and the private prisons get paid by the government on a per diem basis and they're more profitable when their prisons are filled up, thus they lobby for prehistoric laws that have led to America having more incarcerated than China and Russia combined.

    We've somehow managed to make what the warden in Shawshank Redemption did completely legal

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    Tell people to stop commuting crimes, so we don't need to put them away.
    Dumb
    For you to say that, what crimes do you think they are jailing people for in PA that they shouldn't? Most places reduce their jail populations ly letting low level criminals out when they have budget cuts. Seems to me that they wouldn't be building jail space if they weren't the more serious type criminal.
    Really dumb

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    Right, and the private prisons get paid by the government on a per diem basis and they're more profitable when their prisons are filled up, thus they lobby for prehistoric laws that have led to America having more incarcerated than China and Russia combined.

    We've somehow managed to make what the warden in Shawshank Redemption did completely legal
    Privatized prisons aren't lobbying for more laws to put people who otherwise wouldn't go to prison, in prison. If you have proof of that, I would love to see it.

    It costs the State less to pay a privatized prison than to house them themselves. However there are guidelines that the privatized prison have to abide by. the Privatized Prisons usually go by an annual contract that doesn't involve head counting. Furthermore there are tons of types of criminals that privatized prisons will not take. For instance, Rapists, Molesters aren't going to get to stay at Wackenhut.

    What exactly are you saying we are doing that the warden did in Shawshank?

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