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Monta motha ing Ellis.
So far, the Spurs have around $2M, barring the return of Gary Neal. If he does return, we'd be eligible to use the MLE. The best candidates are...
1. Andrei Kirilenko - best possible scenario. Might need four years to lock him.
2. Chauncey Billups - too much
3. Matt Barnes - too much
4. Andrew Bynum - unlikely to sign for MLE unless no one gives him a better offer than MLE
5. Greg Oden - too much; deserves vet. min.
6. Chris Kaman - not a bad pick-up for MLE
7. Dorell Wright/Al-Farouq Aminu - ...?
8. Timofey Mozgov - fills a need in the middle; no further knowledge of his post skills and defense
9. Lamar Odom - not a bad signing. Good for two years?
10. Corey Maggette - well-rested; not the same player though
Hope the Spurs don't pick up another PG.
Other players worth noting:
Spurs' euro stash
Vitor Faverani
Last edited by FireMicoHalili; 07-04-2013 at 03:25 AM.
Monta motha ing Ellis.
i don't like ellis, but he's talented. he'd have to be the main option after AK. he actually fills a more crucial need than Kirilenko does, but its tough to pass on AK. he's a more hard nosed, disciplined player. ellis likes to be a hero, a chucker, and his efficiency has declined pretty much every season for a few years in a row now. he has the ability to be a playmaker and play the manu role (shooting guard thats actually running the point). those are my top 2
if the spurs wanted ellis, they wouldn't have resigned manu.
Everything spurraider just said. AK47 is the most realistic and therefor the #1 choice. I wouldn't mind Monta at all cause we seriously need a legit scorer off the bench, but he's too expensive anyways. We can't afford him. And he wants to start wherever he is.
I'm not sure we can afford Kirilenko now.
Spurs are in dire need of Pg, that by far is the weakest position on the team. They need a guy that can run the offense, score, make plays etc. when Tony is resting. Idk if Cojo is that guy, that'd be awesome but it's a gamble.
Didn't the Bucks offer him a max deal? Hmmm. Regardless, would he sign for the MLE? Lotsa teams with cap space with plan Bs (I assume). Might end up with ATL, etc etc...
Why did they resign Ginobilli then?If the wanted a new player to run the second unit,they wouldn't give 7 mil to Manu.On the other hand,they could still sign Billups for vet.
My choice: I think he'd come in on the cheap.
AK47 for the MLE, Oden for the LLE.
THIS. Looks good on paper.
Betting we spend it on Pachulia tho hahaha. Ha.
No way does Kirilenko opt out of 1 year at $10M to sign for 4 years/$22M. We'd need a sign and trade to get it done.
We spent the LLE on DeColo last year, so we don't have it to spend this year.
If Neal returns, what kind of MLE can we use ?
2.5 millions / 2 years ?
Or 5 and 4?
LLE is currently in use by Nando de Colo
$5.15M assuming they didn't go over the tax threshold last year. Most Spurs writers (Dan McCarney, Paul Garcia, Jeff McDonald, Zach Lowe) indicate we have the full $5.15M to spend.
Just for reference: the top 10 scorers of the Euroleague
RANK PLAYER TEAM GAMES TOTAL AVE. PER 40 MIN. 1 TOMIC, ANTE FC Barcelona Regal 30 503 16.77 27.99 2 KRSTIC, NENAD CSKA Moscow 29 488 16.83 28.72 3 SPANOULIS, VASSILIS Olympiacos Piraeus 31 469 15.13 20.16 4 JAMES, SHAWN Maccabi Electra Tel Aviv 27 447 16.56 27.40 5 KHRYAPA, VICTOR CSKA Moscow 26 443 17.04 24.52 6 FERNANDEZ, RUDY Real Madrid 27 438 16.22 23.82 7 BROWN, BOBBY Montepaschi Siena 24 417 17.38 21.31 8 FARMAR, JORDAN Anadolu Efes 29 410 14.14 18.92 9 HICKMAN, RICKY Maccabi Electra Tel Aviv 27 401 14.85 20.55 10 TEODOSIC, MILOS CSKA Moscow 30 397 13.23 17.82
Even though I think he's been a terrible player, I can't hate too much if Monta goes MLE. That's closer to his real value and in that case for us, good things could happen if some of his negatives get reduced. It's still hard to imagine that he isn't looking for more money though. He is just getting signaled loud and clear that he is not worth what he think he is by a league that's been getting smarter and not overrating volume shooters. Like I said in another thread there is not a single SG he can actually guard but coming off the bench with Manu, would not only be really intriguing, but might also kinda work both ways.
Kirilenko would simply be awesome.
I don't know if we really need one more big but of course I wouldn't mind a gamble on Oden for the minimum. It's something that still has a lot of upside.
Barnes and Wright are interesting and I'm not sure who I would prefer:
Wright is the better shooter which is important and a pretty good defender in his own right. He is a poor rebounder though and not unlike a Danny Green doesn't create anything on his own and has taken his game mostly to the perimeter spotting up for shots. Barnes is more versatile offensively, can make good cuts and do damage in transition. He is also a streakier shooter who will have his slumps. However he is a much better rebounder and of course a tough defender. Negatives are age where he would be in trouble if he starts losing athleticism and an off-court persona that seemingly still make teams stay away from him.
SA doesn't need a star, just a solid player out there, a proven NBA player. The Spurs have TONS of weapons on offense, however without Parker there just isn't anybody to put it all together, it's like having an army tank with nobody to man it.
I just keep having flashbacks of TJ Ford, dude was done, however being coached properly, and being put in position to get others the ball he did. The Spurs had weapons and he used them perfectly, he was still very flawed but the offense just clicked with him out there. Kawhi makes some really great cuts, Tiago is deadly on the P&R, the perimiter is filled with marksmen, TD's in the post etc. they just need someone to set them up for an easy score.
I like his size and passing ability, Spurs definitely need to take a look at this guy.
The Splitter signing may have set the big man rotation, thought I was hoping for a Millsap signing. That makes playmaking the area that needs to be addressed.
Not necessarily a PG. We need another playmaker that has the size of position 2/3, someone we could put along Tony Parker that could play the point and not be a liability on the defensive end. The team needs someone to play the role that once was Manu's: an SG/SF with playmaking skills that can guard the opposing SG/SF. We need someone that we could put alongside Parker during crunch time and perform the stated defensive role.
Among the list you provided and players brought up by other posters:
1. Billups, if healthy, may be a good fit to our system. Remember when he used to back down opposing PG. I also recall when he sometimes guard opposing star players.
2. Ellis? Small for his position but his passing and scoring are a sure plus in our offense. Would absolutely be a
3. Jose Calderon
4. Tyreke Evans? Would have been an almost-perfect replacement to Manu. Too bad his went over the roof.
Our depth is weakest @ the 3/4 position. While Kirilenko would be the outstanding get, Aminou would be acceptable and -- likely -- cheaper.
Why does no one mention Corey Brewer, young, good shooter, defends, and and create his own shot somewhat
young and defends well is all I agree with.. He is not a good shooter and cannot create his own shot. Did you watch him last year? Veeeerrrry streaky shooter.
MLE goes to Jarrett Jack.
I don't understand why everyone wants to stay away from an backup PG. A backup PG would've relieved Ginobili of having to handle the ball and making all the turnovers. Patty Mills and Cory weren't up to task.
Securing a backup PG that is capable of playing quality minutes in pressure situations (ie. playoffs) makes Ginobili and everyone else better.
Jarrett Jack is gonna get more than that.
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