Heat: How man Lottery pics/HOF does lebron need to win chips?

[King Nupe]

Kobe= 1 Allstar per Championship
Duncan= 2-3 Allstars per Championships
Lebron= Wade, Bosh, Allen, Beasley, Oden, SMH...

[scanry]

Son Shaq was not just an all star, he was the NBA's best player.

Oh and BTW Lebron>>>Kobe.

[BoricuaCJA]

I'm still trying to figure out what 2-3 all stars were for Duncan's championships in 2003 and 2005.


2005 he had 1 and that was Manu Ginobili.

[ambchang]

Kenny smith only needed an Allstar to win a championship.

[CitizenDwayne]

I get your point, but putting Kobe in this discussion instead of Shaq...

[DAF86]

How many HOF does Kobe need to get swept in the first round?

[AchillesHeel]

Kirby - Shaq, top 10 all-time player
Duncan - 0 top 10 all-time players
Lebron - 0 top 10 all-time players

[ambchang]

Since we are on counting lottery picks for Lebron, we should do the same for Duncan and Kobe.

Duncan in 1999 - Robinson, Daniels, Elliott (3)
2003 - Robinson, Ferry, Smith (3)
2005 - Horry, Glenn Robinson (2)
2007 - Horry (1)
Average - With Robinson: 3, Without Robinson: 1.5, Overall: 2.25

Kobe in 2000 - Horry, Shaq, Rice (3)
2001 - Grant, Horry, Shaq, JR Rider (4)
2002 - Horry, Shaq, Richmond (3)
2009 - Bynum, Gasol, Mihm, Morrison, Odom, Radmanovic (6)
2010 - Bynu, Gasol, Morrison, Odom (4)
Average - With Shaq: 3.33, without Shaq: 5, Overall: 4

Lebron in 2012 - Battier, Bosh, Curry, Howard, Miller, Wade (6)
2013 - Allen, Battier, Bosh, Wade, Howard, Miller (6)
Average - 6

[ambchang]

As for allstars:

Duncan in 1999 - Robinson (1)
2003 - 0
2005 - Ginobili (1)
2007 - Parker (1)
Average - With Robinson: 0.5, Without Robinson: 1, Overall: 0.75

Kobe in 2000 - Shaq (1)
2001 - Shaq (1)
2002 - Shaq (1)
2009 - Gasol (1)
2010 - Gasol (1)
Average - 1 throughout

Lebron in 2012 - Wade, Bosh (2)
2013 - Wade, Bosh (2)
Average - 2

[spurraider21]

Oden and Beasley

thats like saying "kobe couldn't win with #1 overall pick Kwame what a player"

[DeadlyDynasty]

Tim Duncan's 2003 le is the most impressive. He had literally no great players on his team. Parker and Ginobili were still raw, Jax was decent.

[spurraider21]

^

[Rogue]

Kobe once had 3 future HOF'ers playing with him yet still failed to win the ship. Likes of Manu and Parker are just glorified role players who've been made all-stars by Spurs system and Pop's wisdom imho.

[HI-FI]

Tim Duncan's 2003 le is the most impressive. He had literally no great players on his team. Parker and Ginobili were still raw, Jax was decent.

game respect game

[ambchang]

Kobe once had 3 future HOF'ers playing with him yet still failed to win the ship. Likes of Manu and Parker are just glorified role players who've been made all-stars by Spurs system and Pop's wisdom imho.

Once? I counted twice.

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