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    Is there no one else? AchillesHeel's Avatar
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    Believe. Susan Boyle's Avatar
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    The only drawback was she lost her state funded benefits for failing a drug test.

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    there're two sides for everything imho. And Marijuana, even when used for entertainment purpose, is still not as bad a drug as heroin and s.

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    weed is good but let's not sit here and pretend it doesn't have it's drawbacks. people who walk around pretending it's some magical herb that cures everything and has no side effects are just as stupid and annoying as people who think it's the devil's plant.

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    weed is good but let's not sit here and pretend it doesn't have it's drawbacks. people who walk around pretending it's some magical herb that cures everything and has no side effects are just as stupid and annoying as people who think it's the devil's plant.
    This

    it's those overzealous head stoners that give the willfully ignorant prohibitionists something to point to and laugh.

    another thing, weed has only gotten as potent as it is BECAUSE it's illegal and unregulated. I've heard people who used to smoke talk about how crazy it's gotten and how you used to actually need to smoke a whole blunt to feel anything

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    another thing, weed has only gotten as potent as it is BECAUSE it's illegal and unregulated.
    Uh.....no. It's gotten more potent because of science and cultivation techniques.

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    Uh.....no. It's gotten more potent because of science and cultivation techniques.
    This. It's legal in certain states and they still carry all the different potency strands that the guy at the end of the block carries.

    The growers cultivate and drop them off to the dispensaries and/or the street suppliers, they don't discriminate.

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    Uh.....no. It's gotten more potent because of science and cultivation techniques.
    Uh.....because it isn't regulated. I wasn't saying weed magically became more potent over time

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    It's grown in potency because, legal or otherwise, regulated or otherwise, there's a market for it. If people will pay more for better , will keep getting better and better.

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    Ya, I agree. I only brought it up because the prohibitionists love to point it out. They also like to bring up laced weed, which is overblown, that's also due to no regulation

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    weed is good but let's not sit here and pretend it doesn't have it's drawbacks. people who walk around pretending it's some magical herb that cures everything and has no side effects are just as stupid and annoying as people who think it's the devil's plant.


    Nice story though, glad it was able to help that little girl have a normal life.

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    Good to hear...haven't enjoyed it since college, though.

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    Ya, I agree. I only brought it up because the prohibitionists love to point it out. They also like to bring up laced weed, which is overblown, that's also due to no regulation
    you only bought it to help create the illusion in your mind that the 12-yr old girl you were banging were dead when she was indeed alive, tbh.

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    you only bought it to help create the illusion in your mind that the 12-yr old girl you were banging were dead when she was indeed alive, tbh.
    That wasn't funny

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    there're two sides for everything imho. And Marijuana, even when used for entertainment purpose, is still not as bad a drug as heroin and s.
    It is also less harmful than both cigarettes and alcohol.

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    weed is good but let's not sit here and pretend it doesn't have it's drawbacks. people who walk around pretending it's some magical herb that cures everything and has no side effects are just as stupid and annoying as people who think it's the devil's plant.
    Who claims it's magical?

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    weed is good but let's not sit here and pretend it doesn't have it's drawbacks. people who walk around pretending it's some magical herb that cures everything and has no side effects are just as stupid and annoying as people who think it's the devil's plant.
    This. I'm all for the benefits, but the research into these things is fueled almost exclusively by people who just want to get high on it, or make a profit selling it to people who just want to get high. I have nothing against it, probably not nearly as destructive as alcohol, but then it's not the miracle cure either. Use it for what it's good for, even if that's getting high. It might make you lose your compe ive drive, but fine, plenty of us are waiting to take your jobs and the world needs pizza delivery guys.

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    It is also less harmful than both cigarettes and alcohol.
    That's an invalid argument though. Showing the detriments of other things doesn't bolster the benefits of marijuana nor lessen it's negative effects. It's just a red herring. It's not like people choose between them, or that someone who drinks and smokes won't also smoke marijuana. Bifurcation doesn't work here.

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    weed is good but let's not sit here and pretend it doesn't have it's drawbacks. people who walk around pretending it's some magical herb that cures everything and has no side effects are just as stupid and annoying as people who think it's the devil's plant.
    do you have objections to BigPharma and its drug pushers hiding as much as they can that nearly EVERYTHING they produce, even over the counter stuff, has side effects, some serious, some fatal?

    who says mj is magical and cures everything, Mr Strawman?

    the endocannabinoid system was discovered only a couple decades ago and does seem almost miraculous when used, with CBD, to treat so many different conditions.

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    That's an invalid argument though. Showing the detriments of other things doesn't bolster the benefits of marijuana nor lessen it's negative effects. It's just a red herring. It's not like people choose between them, or that someone who drinks and smokes won't also smoke marijuana. Bifurcation doesn't work here.
    I take it you wish to be so authoritarian, ans eliminate or make illegal anything that is harmful.

    Where do you draw the line?

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    I am a medical marijuana patient in WA State. I have been so for the last 2 years. some of the mmj industry up here is a joke. Too many folks just buying their recommendations. If you can prove a qualifying condition or something close, you can almost always get a card, if you have the $150-$200. It gives us real patients a less than desirable vibe. I received my recommendation from my family doctor, which sadly few will do.
    I don't smoke it to just get high either. Most of the time I either vaporize it or make it into a medible. It has been so great. It's been able to help me with my chronic back pain (degenerative disc), with my severe IBS, & other stomach issues that the doctors haven't figured out yet. The one thing I can tell you is that life has been so much better without pain pills. The side effects that I have had have just been short term memory issues. Other than that I'd rather feel better & forget a couple things than be miserable again.

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    Got Woke? DMC's Avatar
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    I take it you wish to be so authoritarian, ans eliminate or make illegal anything that is harmful.

    Where do you draw the line?
    So because I showed your argument to be invalid, I must hold an opposing viewpoint?

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    Uh.....because it isn't regulated. I wasn't saying weed magically became more potent over time
    This is ignorant.

    Most of the improvement in cultivation techniques have come from research done in northern european countries where it is legal. the seed banks in holland are world famous for example. People are not going to chihuahua to get the new potent weed from the lawless areas of the world.

    mexican red hair sativa is what makes up most of mexican schwag and the quality of that has improved marginally as opposed to the various kush indica and sativa blends produced in europe.

    You seem emotional on this topic and very short on anything real.

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    This. I'm all for the benefits, but the research into these things is fueled almost exclusively by people who just want to get high on it, or make a profit selling it to people who just want to get high. I have nothing against it, probably not nearly as destructive as alcohol, but then it's not the miracle cure either. Use it for what it's good for, even if that's getting high. It might make you lose your compe ive drive, but fine, plenty of us are waiting to take your jobs and the world needs pizza delivery guys.
    It's not particularly difficult to find an unbiased health sttudy. Its really been in the last 20 years or so that the climate has allowed for any fwiw. The drug war is the primary driver behind 'research' and has had quite an effect. The early propaganda is plain to which bias.

    All that being said you can find good studies from legitimate sources. I would hope people would have enough critical thinking skills so that is not a problem. I figure you do.

    For example:

    http://www.uab.edu/news/latest/item/...igarette-smoke

    This is about a study done by UAB and UC published in JAMA.

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    This is ignorant.

    Most of the improvement in cultivation techniques have come from research done in northern european countries where it is legal. the seed banks in holland are world famous for example. People are not going to chihuahua to get the new potent weed from the lawless areas of the world.

    mexican red hair sativa is what makes up most of mexican schwag and the quality of that has improved marginally as opposed to the various kush indica and sativa blends produced in europe.

    You seem emotional on this topic and very short on anything real.
    Ok..cool. I don't care how it's gotten more potent. You're right, I'm not into botany. My point was its potency is an argument against legalization even though it could be controlled.

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