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    Tbh It's getting kind of annoying watching the spurs "pack the paint and pray they miss". I mean it works against teams like the grizzlies but with more and more teams becoming more leathal from midrange and 3 don't you think pop would change it up a bit and just make every one stick to their man? Tbh just shut everyone else down and let durant and westbrook work for everything 1 on 1. If they make tough shots than so be it at least your not letting every one else get involved.

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    Pop doesn't care about defense in December.

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    And iirc thats just what the Spurs did in games 1 & 2 of the 12 wcf. they let harden, durant and westbrook combine for over 90pts in those games yet they still won. it was until the Spurs started leaving their role players wide open is when hit the fan.

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    And iirc thats just what the Spurs did in games 1 & 2 of the 12 wcf. they let harden, durant and westbrook combine for over 90pts in those games yet they still won. it was until the Spurs started leaving their role players wide open is when hit the fan.
    Pop believed like many on ST do that roleplayers can't catch fire and hold onto it which was was Ibaka did in 2012 for a series.

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    Lol TP cant even paly scheme d n u want him to play 1 on 1...

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    Pop has shown multiple times that he will change his defensive game plan from series to series in the playoffs. He adjusted against Golden State last year and will continue to mold his scheme around the personnel he is playing against. This is the regular season and the month of December. There's very little scouting going on right now when it comes to opponents.

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    The only teams that will be difficult for the spurs are OKC, Indiana and Miami. They can score and play defense.

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    Pop has shown multiple times that he will change his defensive game plan from series to series in the playoffs. He adjusted against Golden State last year and will continue to mold his scheme around the personnel he is playing against. This is the regular season and the month of December.
    Yes pop will make changes but I still haven't seen any for OKC in the past 2 years. It's still pack the paint and pray they miss. it's getting kinda old.

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    Yes pop will make changes but I still haven't seen any for OKC in the past 2 years. It's still pack the paint and pray they miss. it's getting kinda old.
    Not saying he has some secret game plan worked up already for a possible OKC playoff matchup, but if he did... why would he show his cards in a meaningless regular season game?

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    Yes pop will make changes but I still haven't seen any for OKC in the past 2 years. It's still pack the paint and pray they miss. it's getting kinda old.
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    Not saying he has some secret game plan worked up already for a possible OKC playoff matchup, but if he did... why would he show his cards in a meaningless regular season game?
    I mean it's not like defensive basketball scheme's are so secretive... so why not just throw out a little man to man...you know. I mean he played a little zone for a series and even tried throwing a double team at durant last night. so why not try it. It's not like showing your cards matters anyway the thunder have been showing their cards for 2+ years now and the spurs still havent been able to figure it out.

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    You cannot defend everyone all the time. You have to defend the paint. If you cannot, you're ed from the start. If they are shooting from outside, you can get a hand up, but you have to live with long range attempts. That's what you hope they settle for.

    Look at Spurs points allowed vs Portland points allowed. Portland is at 102 and the Spurs are in the mid 90s. That tells me the Spurs defense works.

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    Pop doesn't know how to beat OKC.

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    Pop's physolophy isn't to "pack the paint and hope for the miss". In fact the Spurs ae always one of the best teams at defending 3pt shots. Spurs' plan is to avoid 3's, layups and free throws.

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    The problem with OKC is that they have some of the best midrange shooters in the league, which is the shot that the Spurs like to concede.

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    Im not pleased with Pop this season, dude is senile benching Duncan for nothing 28 seconds before the ring, 6 years and no finals made his brain rusty.
    Right now everybody says COASTING TBH TBH TBH, but I remember when Pop hit the Panic Button against OKC... I guess he wasnt coasting then TBH TBH TBH TBH!

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    We were hoping Lebron and Wade missed and they were until it really mattered. hit the fan in Game 7 iirc.

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    Pop doesn't know how to beat OKC.
    Judging by OKC's record, he's not alone.

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    And why is it that someone on the other team is always wide open for a ing 3? What kind of defense is that? Tired of seeing Green flying out to the 3 point line and jumping past the shooter only for the shooter to get out of the way and nail a 3.

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    And why is it that someone on the other team is always wide open for a ing 3? What kind of defense is that? Tired of seeing Green flying out to the 3 point line and jumping past the shooter only for the shooter to get out of the way and nail a 3.
    Pop is hoping Danny Green will learn from it, see what he did to you Danny he faked his shot, took a dribble and then shot wide open.

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    And why is it that someone on the other team is always wide open for a ing 3? What kind of defense is that? Tired of seeing Green flying out to the 3 point line and jumping past the shooter only for the shooter to get out of the way and nail a 3.
    I dont know why Pop does that , solid Defense requires good physical shape and maybe he doesnt want to burn his players right now, but I saw slow ass spurs even in the playoffs, especially against OKC, dudes were roasted losing 4 in a row.

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    Spurs' philosophy is to allow mid-range jump shots rather than 3s and shots at the rim, it's a good strategy, tbh..

    That's part of the reason the Spurs struggle against teams that have good shooting bigs, as we've seen over the past few years..OKC has Ibaka, the Blazers have Aldridge, etc..Blake Griffin killed the Spurs the other night by getting hot after he made a few shots from outside, but Griffin isn't a consistent shooter, so that wouldn't be something to worry about in a series..

    The Spurs' worst matchups in the West are the Thunder, Blazers and maybe the Rockets for this reason, tbh..

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    Spurs' philosophy is to allow mid-range jump shots rather than 3s and shots at the rim, it's a good strategy, tb


    That's part of the reason the Spurs struggle against teams that have good shooting bigs, as we've seen over the past few years..OKC has Ibaka, the Blazers have Aldridge, etc..Blake Griffin killed the Spurs the other night by getting hot after he made a few shots from outside, but Griffin isn't a consistent shooter, so that wouldn't be something to worry about in a series..

    The Spurs' worst matchups in the West are the Thunder, Blazers and maybe the Rockets for this reason, tbh..
    You're really going out on the limb with this post. This coming from a guy who said the Spurs would split their home and home with OKC.The Spurs lost to Portland because of Liliard. They lost to Houston because of Harden. They lost to OKC because of their ability to spread the floor and knock down open shot after open shot. They're getting beat by athletes, not because some big is knocking down a three once or twice. Ibaka was only 6-14 from the field and Aldridge carves up everyone.

    The Spurs strategy is to allow mid range jumers and guard against shots at the rim and threes? They're 16th in the league at gaurding the three and those numbers balloon when they play against good three pount shooting teams. The strategy may be sound, but the execution is weak.

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    It seems as if Pop's decided to roll with "chase the ball" defense, whoever has the ball everyone blitz them. I don't think that's what we'll see playoff time but it's oh so frustrating.

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    You're really going out on the limb with this post. This coming from a guy who said the Spurs would split their home and home with OKC.The Spurs lost to Portland because of Liliard. They lost to Houston because of Harden. They lost to OKC because of their ability to spread the floor and knock down open shot after open shot. They're getting beat by athletes, not because some big is knocking down a three once or twice. Ibaka was only 6-14 from the field and Aldridge carves up everyone.

    The Spurs strategy is to allow mid range jumers and guard against shots at the rim and threes? They're 16th in the league at gaurding the three and those numbers balloon when they play against good three pount shooting teams. The strategy may be sound, but the execution is weak.
    When did I make a Spurs win prediction re: the OKC game?..I said the Spurs were going to lose prior to the game, tbh..find the post, I'm curious, you're playing with fire by bringing up past predictions..

    I don't really give a about this season's small sample size, it's only been a 25-game season so far, but still, the Spurs are 4th in the league in mid-range shot attempts allowed per game, it's the philosophy they utilize every year..I don't know what you're trying to argue, everybody here with any knowledge of the Spurs knows their philosophy..

    They're allowing more 3 attempts than they usually do, which obviously isn't by design, and something they will address, but they're still in the bottom 7 in corner 3-point shot attempts allowed per game..

    Their success at guarding 3s this season had no part in my argument, I never claimed they have been good at guarding the 3 this year, nor do I care about small sample sizes..I'm merely pointing out Pop's philosophy that we have seen over the past few years and that he has spoken about..


    It's also a fact that the Spurs struggle most with teams that have a big man that can shoot the ball from the mid-range..I'm not using a short-sighted sample size like you always do, I'm basing it on the past 3 years of basketball..
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