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To me he's like Gary Neal without the clutchness and a little more energy on defense... I'd still take a backup PG that can acualy make plays before a shooter but right now he's the best the Spurs have.
Hey all
First i'd like to sat im no nba scout by any means and I rarely post here but have been following the spurs from Australia since the mid 90 and would like to share my thoughts on Patrick Mills.
Years ago, watching Mills against CP3 and Dwill in the 2008 Olympics as a 19 year old it was clear he was a step faster then anybody on the court.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5zfDNT4A8Y
Having witnessed TP's early development with the spurs i would tell anyone that listened that i hope the spurs drafted Mills because as a prospect he has the closest skill set to a young TP that i have seen to this day. A broken hand caused him to slip a little and a season ending injury the start of his rookie year ..its been a hard road for him to get to this point.
I believe the spurs have a 25 year old with TP like abilities with the opportunity to develop him over the years.
Thoughts?
To me he's like Gary Neal without the clutchness and a little more energy on defense... I'd still take a backup PG that can acualy make plays before a shooter but right now he's the best the Spurs have.
Wait a second? Without the clutchness? Depends on how you define clutch, tbh. 18 points in the 4th against Bobcats, 16 points in the 4th vs Clippers, 15 points in the 4th against Blazers. If clutch were defined as having the ability to make shots in the 4th in a tight game, then Mills is as clutch as you can get.
I'd say Patty's ceiling is much, much, MUCH higher than Gary's. .. I'd say Patty Mills right now is better than Neal in his prime.
I feel both players are clutch but in different ways. Patty is clutch in the "I'll take over the fourth" way, Neal thrives off the last-second shot more.
The perimeter shooting came later....I'm guessing the he developed it and his quick release during year of Injury time in Portland.
I actually gave up on following him as i was enjoying the championship runs but i maintain that
a 19 year old Mills was a legit NBA prospect with the same rookie TP speed and moxy. What he did to CP3 and Dwill was similar to when a young Parker undressed Payton in the playoffs.
You cant teach speed and it looks like although a volume shooter he can get off (and make) a shot from anywhere.
If he stays with the spurs to develop on the TP plan he will be an all star
Last edited by ceds; 02-22-2014 at 12:02 PM.
Didn't read OP but holy , one bad game, and instantly ST thinks he should go play in Israel or some . Damn idiots, tbh. TP and Gino literally cost the team a ing championship, and we ing overpaid for Gino to pull a hammy every month. Pulling Miles Austin .
LOL, yeah, no kidding. Your post is complaining about the exact opposite of what people are saying in this thread. Wouldn't it have taken less time to read a little bit of the thread then it took to type out that weird response?
"I think it's terrible that people are ing about the Spurs silver and black colors that's some Miles Austin whatever the fuk that means"
Agree with that. He's a great scorer in the fourth when he's hot. I guess I was thinking more of making game-winners.
Patty is great, he needs to play and thats it, the problem with ST is that lots of guys are judging every player based on just one game so when he sucks he is an abomination and when he rocks he is the best ever but some guys here will tell you I COULD DO IT BETTER THAT GUY IS A SCRUB.
Patty was head to head against Lillard, last night was awful but even Lillard have that kind of performances our little aussie has lots of potential and energy he needs to play and keep getting better you wont get that by having him eating bench.
Pop is a weird one, we have Baynes and when his time has come to get some experience Errors appears without any credentials and steals the show how the that scrub gets the starter spot when he is clearly D-League bench material?
But then this is the genius coach who let Duncan with no ring without even having a chance to fight for it.
Mills needs to show more improvement on defense and a better ability to run an offense before we can start talking all-star here....
MIlls has proved he can shoot--and he has the shooter's at ude. However, I've been impressed lately with his commitment to defense and his moving players around, giving them directions like a legitimate PG. He's worth keeping in the rotation for sure.
You should probably read the OP/thread next time, dafuq are you talking aboutDidn't read OP but holy , one bad game, and instantly ST thinks he should go play in Israel or some . Damn idiots, tbh. TP and Gino literally cost the team a ing championship, and we ing overpaid for Gino to pull a hammy every month. Pulling Miles Austin .
Patty is a very good backup point guard. He's a spark plug who had some unusually hot games, but cooled down
I would not say he can be a TP as his ceiling is not that high IMO, but he can be a very good spark off the bench when you need scoring and yes he can develop further and become a player in this league. Eventually you are going to have to pay him though.
lol I'm a funny drunkYou should probably read the OP/thread next time, dafuq are you talking about
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He's an all star caliber player...a hybrid between Isiah Thomas and Steve Nash
Someone pinch me, several "All star" mentions in a Mills thread I must be dreaming...
Midgets SGs don't become All stars... He's Nate Robinson without the freak atheticism and lucky enough to play in a system where he doesn't have to dribble or pass much... Playing with a 6"6 and 6"8 points in Manu and Diaw...
Lucky for Australians they may have a 6"6 PG soon in Exum so they can form a good backcourt...
Midgets SGs don't become All stars... He's Nate Robinson without the freak atheticism and lucky enough to play in a system where he doesn't have to dribble or pass much... Playing with a 6"6 and 6"8 points in Manu and Diaw...
Lucky for Australians they may have a 6"6 PG soon in Exum so they can form a good backcourt...
Didn't read OP but holy , one bad game, and instantly ST thinks he should go play in Israel or some . Damn idiots, tbh. TP and Gino literally cost the team a ing championship, and we ing overpaid for Gino to pull a hammy every month. Pulling Miles Austin .
Didn't read OP but holy , one bad game, and instantly ST thinks he should go play in Israel or some . Damn idiots, tbh. TP and Gino literally cost the team a ing championship, and we ing overpaid for Gino to pull a hammy every month. Pulling Miles Austin .
i had Miles on my fantasy team so I agree, tired of the hammy .
Is anyone going to dispute the notion that Mills is currently one of if not the fastest players in the league at this moment??
All this talk about Mills being SG is simply untrue. He is a scoring point guard and can get into the paint whenever he wants. The paint finishing will come just like it did with TP over his first 3 years in the L as long as the spurs commit to developing him the same way they did with Parker.
As i said in my OP - Find me another NBA draft prospect that had the same skill set as a 19 year old Parker.
Mills is the closest you will ever find and i was saying this years ago.
After all he's been through the last few years to finally get a chance to play shows he he has the same tough mental makeup (as shown this past off season) that pop looks for. This is his first real shot and pop has already recognized that he is a guy that needs a green light and to play his own style like Manu because more often then not it will benefit the team.
At 25 its not too late for him to blossom as this is his first real opportunity to develop...the P&R and paint scoring will come in the next couple of seasons...the outside shooting is whats the surprise and only makes him that much more deadly.
The spurs get the international guys who are the clear cut star player on their respective international teams.( TP, Manu, Mills). They know they belong and are not impressed by playing in the NBA.
I wanted to post this when we first signed him but tbh i thought he'd never get a decent crack until the TD era was over. Like i said im no scout but i know ball and i know elite offensive skills when i see them and Mills has two with the perfect prototype to follow.
All those laughing at all star caliber....wait and see
He can faster than Usain Bolt, you only go as fast as the ball... The limiting factor is not his speed it's his handles...
I completely disagree with Patty having the same skill set as a young Parker. Parker's always been a paint scorer, he didn't develop his mid range game until a few years into his NBA career. Mills, on the other hand, struggled to get in the lane in his first 3 years of the NBA, and prefers using his mid-range and three point game to score points.
Boomersgold.
im talking about as a Draft Prospect not whats happening now...to me Mills is basically a rookie.
Yes while mills has become a great shooter during that off time off. My point is that as a 19 year old he was a distinct disadvantage to what Parker was with SA. Not only due to the injuries Mills had but also the cir stances since we had no choice but to fast track TP because of AD. I would have loved to see Mills in that situation.
For those that have watched from the beginning TP in his rookie year couldn't finish well at all.
His elite skill was his speed and ability to get into the paint whenever he chose but he usually passed it out. The second year came the tear drop and then he was around a 17pt scorer the following couple? years. He didn't truly master finishing in the pain until 5 or 6 seasons in...to his credit he also got a mid range game and reconstructed shot during that time also.
Look...Parker imo finishes in the paint better then iverson. Patty getting there is asking allot
The one thing all these guys had is that they were the fastest players in the game and were fearless.
The paint scoring will come...and he IS a scoring point guard, not a SG....3 years in a spurs system and Mills is one of the best points in the league.
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