We should have signed Monte over Manu

[Spanklin]

15.1 PER, he gone fishin already. Richard Jefferson 2.0 for 3 more years?

[ElNono]

Bargain, tbh... most entertaining bench in the NBA...

Hope he has 2-3 more years after this contract is due...

[Diego20]

No thanks

[timmy2003]

No. Monte is a volumn shooter.

[Johnny RIngo]

No. Monte is a volumn shooter.

Monta's averaging 23 ppg on 47%. Manu's at 10 ppg on 42%. I wouldn't throw the word "volume shooter" around so carelessly when Manu's shooting has been much, much worse.

[Johnny RIngo]

And yeah, any objective Spur fan knew Manu's recent contract was undeserved. He played at the level of a $4 mil/year player last year(massively overpaid considering he was making 14 mil) and he looks even worse this year. Sad thing is Ginobili hasn't even had his annual 30 game injury yet so expect much worse from him as the season progresses.

[PlayNando]

Stupid thread is stupid per par. Monte is an overrated hero chucker.

So what he's shooting 47% from the field now? We're barely 1/10th through the season. SMH!

[Johnny RIngo]

Stupid thread is stupid per par. Monte is an overrated hero chucker.

So what he's shooting 47% from the field now? We're barely 1/10th through the season. SMH!

Well, it tells us how disappointing Manu has been so far when we're comparing him to terrible players like Monta Ellis.

[PlayNando]

Well, it tells us how disappointing Manu has been so far when we're comparing him to terrible players like Monta Ellis.

[ElNono]

Manu's been great, tbh... integral part of the best bench in the NBA...

[Leetonidas]

People scoffing me for saying Monta Ellis is better than current Manu in the offseason

[weebo]

the constant whining/bashing of Manu on this board by some of you dumb asses has gotten extremely boring

[ElNono]

to be fair, didn't monta walk away from like a +10m contract? I thought he was going to get paid more than he did.

[TheGoldStandard]

Eh, Manu hasn't done anything out of the ordinary. He's been standing pat

[cd021]

Monta's averaging 23 ppg on 47%. Manu's at 10 ppg on 42%. I wouldn't throw the word "volume shooter" around so carelessly when Manu's shooting has been much, much worse.

Your're looking at 10 games as opposed to his career. Monta is the definition of a volume shooter. He's a ball dominant undersized 2-guard. Playing him and Parker together to end games would be a disaster. Ginobili's shooting won't be under 30% 3pt for the year. It will improve and he'll hit about a 3rd of them.

[cd021]

People scoffing me for saying Monta Ellis is better than current Manu in the offseason

Comparing a player in his late 20's to a player in his mid 30's with plenty of extra millage because of playoffs and international compe ion. Its unfair to begin with. Ginobili still hold more value to the Spurs than Monte has on his previous teams (all of which were pretty bad, save for the 07' team in GSW)

[Johnny RIngo]

Your're looking at 10 games as opposed to his career. Monta is the definition of a volume shooter. He's a ball dominant undersized 2-guard. Playing him and Parker together to end games would be a disaster. Ginobili's shooting won't be under 30% 3pt for the year. It will improve and he'll hit about a 3rd of them.

Never said I wanted Monta on this team tbqh. Just pointing out the hypocrisy of timmy2003's post. Doesn't really make sense to on Monta for his efficiency when Ginobili's been worse this season(especially from 3 point range).

[cd021]

And yeah, any objective Spur fan knew Manu's recent contract was undeserved. He played at the level of a $4 mil/year player last year(massively overpaid considering he was making 14 mil) and he looks even worse this year. Sad thing is Ginobili hasn't even had his annual 30 game injury yet so expect much worse from him as the season progresses.

He missed 30 games twice in 11 seasons. That seems to be clock work how? Just 3 seasons ago he averaged 30 mpg and played 85 games in the 10-11 season. He was grossly underpayed in his prime. The Spurs knew that most player that they'd covet would be above the mid level or likely to go elsewhere. They payed Manu back for his loyalty and stayed safely under the luxury tax.

[Johnny RIngo]

He missed 30 games twice in 11 seasons.

lol @ pretending Manu isn't injury prone:



And that chart doesn't even include most of the games he missed last season.

That seems to be clock work how? Just 3 seasons ago he averaged 30 mpg and played 85 games in the 10-11 season.

Yeah, and he burned out come playoff time.

He was grossly underpayed in his prime. The Spurs knew that most player that they'd covet would be above the mid level or likely to go elsewhere. They payed Manu back for his loyalty and stayed safely under the luxury tax.

The "Manu was underpayed" has to stop. Just because other players in this league have been grossly overpaid doesn't mean Manu should have been too. Spurs gave fair value to an injury-prone 2nd option/3rd option talent that likes to spend his off-seasons playing international ball.

[ElNono]

lol @ pretending Manu isn't injury prone:

And that chart doesn't even include most of the games he missed last season.

The chart lists all sorts of minor stuff and DNP-CDs... you could put together about the same stuff for every NBA player with 10+ seasons in the league... Manu had 2 major injuries: broken hand and the stress fracture. He played through the broken nose and broken arm in the playoffs.

He's not a physical freak like fetuses Kobe or HGH Wade. But all in all, missing 30 games twice in 11 seasons is pretty darn good, especially for a guy that was a human pinball machine back in the day.

[ElNono]

I guess if we had Monta we would be 9-1.... instead of 9-1...

[DAF86]

lol Monta is playing as good as he possibly can and he barely has a PER of 18.5. Just wait 'till the law of averages strike. Besides, if Monta would have got here, he would have been a bench player, it's safe to say he wouldn't have performed as well as he is doing right now on a reserve role. That added to the fact that Manu is a legend on SA and I say that no, the Spurs shouldn't have signed Monta over Manu.

[PlayNando]

One has to admit that Manu hasn't had any real severe injuries over the course of his career, at least. Considering all the injuries he's sustained, we're damned lucky he hasn't done something severe like tear an ACL or something.

[cd021]

lol @ pretending Manu isn't injury prone:



And that chart doesn't even include most of the games he missed last season.



Yeah, and he burned out come playoff time.



The "Manu was underpayed" has to stop. Just because other players in this league have been grossly overpaid doesn't mean Manu should have been too. Spurs gave fair value to an injury-prone 2nd option/3rd option talent that likes to spend his off-seasons playing international ball.

-You said he misses 30 games every year. He's missed 30 games twice.

-He lead our team in scoring that series, while playing with a broken arm against the best defensive wing in the NBA. So I guess he was burned out.

-Parker has had his fair share of injuries as well. (Last season alone he missed a dozen games or was limited in games played ,with calf, back, sprained ankle, neck injuries etc.) calling out Manu for him have various injures over a long career is a bit unfair.

-Manu was under payed 6 years $54 million dollars (9 million a season) His average P.E.R in that stretch was 21. Parkers was 20 last season with a salary of $12.5 Million. We weren't going to use that money else where why not repay him for his loyalty and helping us maintain our success for the past decade.

[cd021]

One has to admit that Manu hasn't had any real severe injuries over the course of his career, at least. Considering all the injuries he's sustained, we're damned lucky he hasn't done something severe like tear an ACL or something.

This.