http://grantland.com/features/2002-w...nto-kings/?erd
“It was the big city of California against what was perceived to be this sleepy, little capital town of California,” said Scott Howard-Cooper, who covered the NBA for the Sacramento Bee during the series. “North versus South. Established versus wannabe. There were so many things that drew them together.”
Wow, good read. Never knew Horry had such a good overall game in that one hit the game winner in; 18 points, 14rebounds, and 5 assists.
Dont think this was the dig you meant it or what you wanted it to be. Shaq was a beast.
But no way they win that series without Kobe that is just hubris. Shaq at times struggled with foul trouble especially on the road.
Horry was a boss. from 96-2005 most significant role player and one of the truly great clutch players in NBA history with the hip check adding to his clutch resume.
Christie basically talking about Horry's kill shot in G4, that with Shaq it was 100 percent at the rim, but with Kobe it was 50 percent on the perimeter. And you can live with 50 percent on the perimeter. Vlade was basically just reenacting Magic's ball toss as the end of the 91 Conference Finals against the Blazers. He just tapped it right to Horry.
Kobe's semen shield to the rescue!
Another quote that settles the Shaq and Kobe were equals argument.
Kobe is clutch.
Speaking of Shaq being a beast ...
Shaquille had come back heavy after the first championship. After they won the second championship, he had said he was going to come in at 300 pounds. He literally came back weighing closer to 400. He was easily 360, 375. So he spent all season playing himself into shape.
A big part of the feud and inexcusable even with a toe injury 375?! I dont think Shaq is that fat now ...he literally did not care about off-season cinditioning and chose surgery/rehab/conditioning on "company time" and as the back to back Finals MVP no one said much.
LOL you do realize 50% is good?Another quote that settles the Shaq and Kobe were equals argument.
Also of course a shaq dunk is 100%
Again this is not a dig Shaq, in playoff Finals form was a beast.
We weren’t afraid of Kobe — Doug [Christie] gave Kobe a tougher time than anybody else would. We didn’t have to come and double him. We felt good about Vlade’s matchup against Shaq. Even though Shaq was a bigger, stronger guy, Vlade was pretty crafty.
Is that a Shaq dig too we felt good about Vlade's matchup?
But amb doesnt post that ... Vlade versus shaq 1 on 1 is a GOOD matchup ...LOL ... Amb reaching.
Good article people on here should read the whole thing. Only real insight for most is how critical Horry truly was but for me I knew that I saw every game that year. Winning that le was more a sense of relief and the Shaqobe feud was already starting to get on my nerves. I wanted them to work it out but if not wanted one of them gone. Their feud was way more public than PG banging Hibberts bottom .
Despite that, the Kings are STILL much much more worried about Shaq than Kobe. Says something about how good Shaq was.
No doubt 50% is good, only problem is that Kobe was actually 25% in the clutch.
Also, you do realize 100% > 50%, right? Kings are worried that Shaq can get a dunk whenever he wants, speaks of how good he was, right?
I was not discussing clutch, you did.
Of course 100% is better said that ...two problems shaq suckss at FT's and those Kings had Vlade, Pollard and one other big I forget his name that could foul Shaq late and send him to the line.
And against Sacto shaq typically was battling foul trouble that he did not face other teams or even against the Kings when at staples. Plus the Kings bigs flopped, well. Dont get me wrong sometimes Shaq committed offensive fouls but it shows how ty the refs are (home cookin) they usually only called it on the road. Sacto also had homecourt that year.
By the WCf shaq was in fine shape. Shaq was still the #1 option ... I have no issue with any of that I just do not see how that "settles" anything. Who is even arguing that point? If you read the article the Lakers had less talent and were increasingly reliant on Shaq (which had always been true) Kobe who responsibilities (and ego) increased and Horry who had to play a bigger role because he had no back up and the Lakers lacked a great #3 scoring option. The Kings had a lot more weapons.
That's like saying 9/11 wasn't that bad because Hiroshima was worse.Phil Jackson: It wasn’t as ridiculous as you saw in, say, the Miami versus Dallas series in 2006 when Dwyane Wade was shooting 20-something free throws a game that series.
Reading that thing too I remembered that wide right airball from Peja and then started thinking "man, what a choker" but then remembered that he hit what seemed like 50 bajillion threes for the Mavs in 2011. Forgot how much redeemed himself
Game 7 was one of the biggest choke-jobs I've ever seen in professional sports. Only equivalents I can think of off the top of my head are the Bartman Game and the Pirates in the ninth inning of Game 7 of the '92 NLCS against Atlanta.
In the 2001 playoffs, the Lakers mocked the Kings for over-celebrating their first-round win; Shaq disparaged Divac’s defensive techniques; and the Lakers ripped off an embarrassing sweep. They looked like they had dismissed Sacramento
The series Kobe put up numbers only Hakeem, Shaq and Now Aldridge had put up in the last 25 years?!
Phil would of been a great forum troll:
The seeds had been sown for a bitter war. When the Lakers went up 2-0 in Round 1 of the 2000 playoffs, they traveled to Sacramento thinking the series was over. Instead, the Kings burned a Lakers jersey as part of a pregame celebration, and won Games 3 and 4 before falling in Game 5. Kings co-owner Joe Maloof told Bloomberg that Phil Jackson was “arrogant” during the series and had been “cowering in the corner” during the losses in Sacramento. That started the bad blood. Jackson enjoyed splicing movie clips into game film and once juxtaposed then-Kings point guard Jason Williams against Ed Norton’s character in American History X and Kings coach Rick Adelman with Adolf Hitler, which infuriated the Kings and led to Adelman saying, “That’s crossing the line, I think.” Then, Jackson enraged everyone in Sacramento by referring to the city as a “cow town” and also saying, “I coached basketball in Puerto Rico, where when you won on a visiting floor, your tires were slashed and you might be chased out of town with rocks breaking the windows of your car. I mean, it’s a different environment, entirely. You’re talking about semicivilized Sacramentans. Those people up there may be redneck in some form or fashion.” In the 2001 playoffs, the Lakers mocked the Kings for over-celebrating their first-round win; Shaq disparaged Divac’s defensive techniques; and the Lakers ripped off an embarrassing sweep
LOL, then there is a huge section about how Vlade flops. And no where did it say no double on Shaq. It said no double on Kobe.
So we have to wait 11 more years for an oral history of game 6 of the 2013 Finals?
weakened Bryant still scored 22 points in Game 2, and the Lakers hung around thanks to monster efforts from O’Neal (35 points) and Horry (20 rebounds). Only Bobby Jackson — a spark plug with 17 points — played well for the Kings, but a jarring 38-25 free throw advantage lifted Sacramento to a 96-90 victory. “In order to beat us, you have to beat us,” Shaq told reporters afterward. “And beat us fair and square. There’s only one way to beat us — it starts with a ‘c’ and ends with a ‘t.’
1. Sacto shot 38 Ft's in game 2 no one remembers that (Like i have said repeatedly and Kerr mentioned on TNT last night) only emo fans don't know this ...
2. Horry grabbed 20 freaking rebounds this game. Why could we not see THAT horry more often? Great clutch player but a bit of a regular season under-achiever tbh
3. LOL Shaq trollin' too and throwing out word problems.
You do realize that was strictly talking about the set up of Horry's dagger, right? That was specifically talking about the players in the clutch. It wasn't me talking about it, it was the Kings players.
Did not say that. I said that they felt good about the matchup. Point being how does this article prove anything ...it's just a great article with first hand biased accounts on an emotional series.
Fox: I thought he would end up having a better game, he would go into some hyper-focused mode and pull off some game for the ages. Didn’t go that way and Shaq got quick fouls.
Like I said ...
Shaq may have been more important than Kobe during the three-peat but the Lakers wouldn't win the three-peat without Kobe's heroics.
the number of times he ethered the Spurs in the playoffs
Kings can't really cry cheating in Game 6 considering how...
A. They poisoned Kobe's cheeseburger
B. They collectively choked on s in Game 7.
Phil Jackson: The discrepancy between what happened when Shaq was in foul trouble in Sacramento [versus] Shaq getting fouled in L.A. was really interesting. Look at those stats. Divac got the calls, which became blocks on our home court, which became charges on their home court.
There were bad calls both ways in that series people only remember game 7
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