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Link to when Kobe ruled the league... Oh the TV told you he ruled the league so you assumed t was true
there's so much talk about duncan being the best player since MJ, strangely, this affirmation took place after duncan won his 5th le. this time riding the coattails of a 22 year old.
how can duncan be the best player when kobe and lebron ruled the league from 2006-2014?
Link to when Kobe ruled the league... Oh the TV told you he ruled the league so you assumed t was true
I would say it ended after 2003, when he defeated 2 of the other top 10 players in league history as lone star of the Spurs. He had to play 42 minutes a game in the post season to do it.
To me that was the biggest individual accomplishment in NBA history. I can not remember any other time a team with no other star player, defeated another team with 2 of the top 10 players in league history at/near their prime.
He started to experience nagging injuries from fatigue, Pop started to control his minutes but it was too late.
2014 playoff stats:
PPG - Duncan 16.4, Leonard 14.3
RPG - Duncan 9.1, Leonard 6.7
AST - Duncan 1.9, Leonard 1.7
BLK - Duncan 1.3, Leonard 0.7
PER - Duncan 21.0, Leonard 18.7
Win shares - Duncan 3.2, Leonard 2.9
Leonard was the Spurs' best player during the Finals, but Duncan was overall the Spurs' best player through the playoffs. And this has been true for all 5 le runs.
Kobe has at most been the 3rd best player in the league in any given year. The best player in the league have always been from this list: Shaq, Duncan, Garnett, Dirk, LeBron, Durant
lakerfan is taking the Spurs' championship especially hard.
Not really, I dont care much for dynasties and legacies tbh, I just want to talk basketball.
It seems to me the notion of Duncan somehow leapfrogging the better players of this generation after winning a le to which he was the 2nd best player is absurd. Actually, all this ring count is totally stupid if you think of it but we'll play that card since that's what the media goes for.
Still, Duncan hasn't really been the best player of the game since when, 2004? We can argue about semantics but Kobe and Lebron both owned 4 regular season MVP's, 4 Finals MVP's and about 4 NBA les since and they were the undisputed best players during those years. Duncan wasn't even in anyone's Top 10 list for the past 3 years.
Seems really important to you.
Talk about basketball? Sure. I never said otherwise.
You're free to discuss basketball or add more post count. It's up to you.
Duncan's great.
Spurs are champs.
lakerfan bites ankles.
That's cool if that's your take. But that's not what I asked. *shrugs*
Can't say it matters all that much to me.
I'm more amused by lakerfans' coping strategy. You guys really kicked into high gear after Sunday.
Best players since the 1997 season: <edited to include Garnett for the 07-08 season>
96-97: Jordan
97-98: Jordan / Malone / Shaq
98-99: Duncan / Shaq
99-00: Shaq
00-01: Shaq
01-02: Duncan
02-03: Duncan
03-04: Garnett
04-05: Duncan / Garnett
05-06: Dirk / LeBron
06-07: Dirk / LeBron
07-08: Garnett / LeBron
08-09: LeBron
09-10: LeBron
10-11: LeBron / Dirk
11-12: LeBron
12-13: LeBron / Durant
13-14: Durant / LeBron
Last edited by Warlord23; 06-17-2014 at 06:16 PM.
, this could have been a good bball thread, but chump had to hijack it with his autism
future is not going to be nice for Kobestans. Duncan was always better, but now even the old media are starting to realize they were duped by a rapist.
Hard to pinpoint but that Tim is still contending for les at 40 years old while kids are gonna soon ask "What was Kobe/KG like in their prime?"
Tim gave up stupid arbitrary bull like the concept of this thread back when he couldve been scoring 25 every game so he could still be an effective player on a le winning team today.
lol following me around.
When was your last basketball take?
2005/2006 only because Duncan has not had to carry the Spurs are on his own for a long time.
this is not your brightest day bike helmet boy, with 85k post it's hard not to run into your autism in every thread.
Hey, another post about me.
Turns out you don't care a bit about the OP after all.
Just me.
2005 Kobe missed the playoffs and Tim won his 3rd Finals MVP. In 2007 Tim beat Lebron in the Finals. If you call missing the playoffs and losing ruling the league, I can see why you're a Kobe fan.
Also, just like the you are, you stole the "rode coattails" schtick. Tim is the great mentor. Only a Kobe loving, front running would think a leading scorer is the best player in the game while another player never missed the playoffs and build his franchise himself, making legends and MVPs of other players along the way. Kobe is several years younger yet Tim has seen two Finals and won a ring since Kobe won his last playoff game. The person Kobe was banking on, planning on building a statue for in LA, the same one who dumped Kobe while Kobe was hobbled for another team... lost in convincing fashion to the same team that Tim rolled over in 5 games. The last historical beat down prior to this season was last season when Tim rolled over the Lakers in 4 and made Howard the laughing stock of the free world. Subsequent to missing his 2nd consecutive playoffs and 3rd overall, Kobe takes half the team's salary cap as a golden parachute in a huge " you" to the and be@ner Lakers fans, much like yourself.
A season might be a sprint, but a career is a marathon and Tim has everyone who's not yet retired in his rearview mirror... as a dot on the horizon. That includes your hero.
So it's about relevance. Kobe isn't relevant. Chris Paul is more relevant than Kobe Bryant.
Tim's minutes really started dropping off after 03, so those going solely by stats will probably be inclined to say the "reign" ended there.
Considering the potential Duncan minutes passed up by Pop, it's easier to see how fruitless this kind of debate is.
It's amusing that people say Lebron reigns and they use stats to prove it, yet Durant won't the scoring le how many times and he's the MVP this year.... and didn't make the Finals.
When it's all said and done, Lebron will probably have 4 or 5 rings. He will be one of the best to ever do it. Along the way, if he doesn't rape his team or anyone else, if he doesn't cry to Stephen A Smith about quitting, if he doesn't get called uncoachable by the most decorated coach of all time, if he doesn't pattern his game after someone he'll never be because he's a made got, he's already better than Kobe and the rings just solidify it.
When did Kobes start?
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